[gothic-l] Re: EE Jews descend from Goths

dirk at SMRA.CO.UK dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Thu May 10 14:05:51 UTC 2001


--- In gothic-l at y..., czobor at c... wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., jdm314 at a... wrote:
> >...
> > Blaibt a Bua stehn bai da Tür.
> > Er sogt voller Liab zu ihr: >>
> > 
> > I note that you rhyme ue with i. Are they pronounced the same, or 
is 
> this just an imperfect rhyme?
> > 
> > 
> > << Grüss Gott!
> > Keth >>
> > 
> > A gezunt inem heym!
> > IUSTEINUS
> > 
> > (AHAH! There IS a Gothic word in this post!)
> 
> Yes, they are pronounced the same in the modern High-German 
dialects.
> "Tür" (door) sounds like "Tier" (animal). This pronounciation 
affects 
> even the cultured poetry, since even Goethe rhymes ü with i.
> 
> Francisc

Hi Francisc,

Tuer and Tier can be rhymed, because their are not so many words with 
umlaut 'ue', and such a rhyme would probably affect the 
pronounciation in that case somewhat, but otherwise there is a 
distinct difference in the pronounciation of these words. Thus, if 
these words were pronounced separately, there is a clear and strong 
difference (at least to the German ear). A problem only arises in the 
differentiation between 'y' and 'ue' not 'i' or even 'ie'.

cheers
Dirk




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