[gothic-l] Re: Gothic and German Dialects

[cstrohmier at YAHOO.COM]

Hi Dirk,
       The comparisions of the Atta unsar with the various Germanic 
dialects is very interesting.  Thanks for providing this information. 
I am especially interested in the Bavarian Fater unser.  Would you 
happen to have the complete text?
Cory

--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hope you've enjoyed this screed.
> > 
> > -Iusteinus
> 
> 
> Hello Iusteinus,
> 
> I greately enjoyed your comparisons. Maybe it would also be 
> interesting to compare Gothic to other Old German dialects. I found 
> the following texts (the first line of the Lord's Prayer) in 
different 
> Germanic dialects. 
> 
> My impression is that the Alamannic texts are closest to the 
Gothic, 
> followed by Rhine-Francian and Bavarian, while the Old Saxon text 
of 
> the Heliand gives quite a different wording and is perhaps more 
> difficult to compare. Given that the texts are fairly similar and 
that 
> the earliest Alamannic text is separated from the Gothic text by 
over 
> 400 years, I guess that  Alamannic (or any other Germanic 
> dialect) spoken in the 4th century was not at all very different 
from 
> Gothic. What do you think?  
> 
> 
> Gothic, 4th century
> 
> Atta unsar thu in himinam, weihnai namo thein.
> qimai thiudinassus theins. wairthai wilja theins,
> swe in himina jah ana airthai.
> 
> 
> Alamannic, 8th century
> 
> Fatar unsar, thu in himile pist, uueihi namon deinan,
> queme rihi dein, uuerte uuiljo dein,
> swe in himile sosa in ertha.
> 
> 
> Alamannic, around 780AD (St Gallener Vaterunser)
> 
> Fater unseer, thû pist in himile, uuîhi namun dînan,      
         
> qhueme rîhhi dîn, uuerde uuillo diin, 
> sô in himile sôsa in erdu.
> 
> 
> 
> Rhine-Francian, 9th century (Weissenbrunner Katechismus)
> 
> Fater unsêr, thu in himilom bist, giuuîhit sî namo thîn.
> quaeme rîchi thîn. uuerdhe uuilleo thîn, 
> sama sô in himile  endi in erthu.
> 
> 
> East-Francian, 825AD
> 
> Fater unser, thû bist in himile, sî giheilagôt thîn
namo,
> queme thîn rîhhi, sî thîn uuillo, 
> sô her in himile ist, sô sî her in erdu,
> 
> 
> Bavarian, 9th century
> 
> Fater unsêr, der ist in himilom, kæuuîhit uuerde dîn
namo,
> piqueme rîhi dîn, uuesse uuillo dîn,
>  sama ist in himile, enti in erdu.
> 
> 
> Old Saxon, 9th century
> 
> Fæder ûse thû eart on heofonum, sî thîn nama
gehâlgôd.
> Tôbecume thîn rîce. Geweorthe thîn willa 
> on eorthan swâ on heofonum.
> 
> Old Saxon, 840AD (Heliand)
> 
> Fadar is ûsa firiho barno, the is an them hôhon himila
rîkea.       
> Geuuîhid si thîn namo uuordo gehuuilico.
> Cuma thîn craftag rîki. Uuerda thîn uuilleo obar thesa
uuerold alla,
>  sô sama an erdo sô thâr uppa ist an them hôhon
himilrîkea.
> 
> 
> cheers
> Dirk


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