[gothic-l] Re: byzantium

[Sahin Ahmet]

 Burgaz is not a Turkish word. It appears only in the thracian region of Turkey. I dont think it is greek either because there are lots of old greek settlements all around in anatolia but this name is never encountered in anatolia. Byzantium used to have paid soldiers from other tribes such as goths and koman&pechenek turks.Thracia region was a passage to many migrating people including turks, goths and slavs. The city known as 'silivri' 40 km west of constantinopolis is known to have nested a small gothic group during byzantium time before they were absorbed eventually into the greek community.
  Francisc Czobor <czobor at cantacuzino.ro> wrote: --- In gothic-l at y..., Sahin Ahmet <ahmetsahinn at y...> wrote:
>
>  I also wonder what happened to the gots who served as paid soldiers
to the byzantium empire. They are known to have settled in the thracia
region west of constantinopolis capital of the empire. There are some
settlement names which are apparently not turkish nor gereek. Like
Luleburgaz, kemerburgaz. burgaz sounds like coming from burg(city) but
I am not very sure. I was very surprised when I saw the mosaics in the
mosaic museum in istanbul depicting the byzantium soldiers which were
non greek in facial appearance. That was confirming the assertion that
the byzantium empire used some gothic tribes as paid soldiers.

Very interesting. I knew about Luleburgaz in European Turkey and was
also striked by the resemblance of -burgaz with Gmc. *burgz (Goth.
baurgs, Germ. burg etc.). But I believed that "burgaz" is a Turkish
word. But if it is not Turkish, than the things change. It is,
however, possible that burgaz comes from Greek pyrgos (whose
relationship with the Germanic word is unclear) or late Latin burgus
(that apparently comes from Germanic).

Francisc


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