[gothic-l] Re: Wolfs/dogs
faltin2001
dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Tue Aug 6 12:20:00 UTC 2002
I have to correct myself. The wolf is, of course, frequently depicted
on Ostrogothic copper coins (20-nummi). This is, however, the symbol
of Rome, i.e. the she-wolf with Romulus and Remus. The lion is
depicted on copper-fractions of Totila.
cheers,
Dirk
--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
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> Here is a link to a site that provides a picture of the sword
> scabbard of Gutenstein (South Germany/Alamannic areas), which shows
a
> mythicial creature called a 'wolf-skin warrior' holding a ring
sword.
> Since ring swords were a symbol of Germanic warrior elites, the
wolf
> will likely have played a special role in their identity.
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> http://www.archaeologie-online.de/magazin/thema/2000/03/d2.php3
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> As for the Goths, I am not aware of any depiction of wolfs or dogs
on
> Gothic artefacts. It was certainly not present in the original
> Wielbark culture in modern northern Poland from which the Goths
> emerged, since the so called 'animal style' was developed at a much
> later stage. The most important animal symbol in the Gothic culture
> seemed to have been the eagle, which they adopted from the
Sarmatian
> steppe tribes.
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> cheers,
> Dirk
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> --- In gothic-l at y..., Ingemar Nordgren <ingemar.nordgren at e...>
wrote:
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> > gothic-l at y... wrote:
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> > > From: "hrafnsnest" <mimir at s...>
> > > Subject: Wolf/Dog Motifs
> > >
> > > Hail All!
> > >
> > > I just finished _The One Eyed God - Odinn and the Indo-
> Germanic
> > > Mannerbund_, by Kris Kershaw, Journal Of Indo-European Studies,
> > > Washington D.C., 2000. A fantastic read, covering the Eurasian
> > > Steppes and the wolf/dog motifs of the various tribes who
dwelt
> their.
> > > However, there was not very much info. on the Goths or other
> related
> > > EGmc tribes who were in close cultural contact with the
various
> Indo-
> > > Iranian tribes. Are there any wolf / dog motifs among these
> EGmc's
> > > besides the few names of Gothic kings?
> > >
> > > Wassail!
> > > Jeff
> >
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > About the Goths specificially I can not say something straight
> forward,
> > but the dog/wolf motiv is very common in Scandinavia and the
areas
> > around the South coast of the Baltic where also the Goths lived.
The
> > Torsö plates e.g. show warriors in wolfguise, you have the
> dogs/wolves
> > of Óðinn often reproduced in later German carnevals. The
Langobards
> had
> > the dog as their special totem. I suggest you read Otto Höflers
> > "Geheimbünde der Germanen", Moritz Diesterweg Verlag, Frankfurt
a/M
> > 1934, where you can find a lot of these things. It also contains a
> > special supplement about werewolfs in Balticum and a lot of
> information
> > about Scandinavian and German werewolfs and the odinistic warrior
> cults.
> >
> > Best
> > Ingemar
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