[gothic-l] Re: Greutung, Therving; Khazars

[george knysh]

--- Yair Davidiy <britam at netvision.net.il> wrote:
> Avraham Pollack wrote an authoritative work (in
> Hebrew) on the Khazars in
> which he claims
> the basic stock of the Khazars was Gothic.
> Even so, the highest probability is that they were
> of Hebraic origin.

*****GK: There is an extensive literature on the
Khazars (Dunlop, Pritsak, Golb, Artamonov, Brook etc.
etc.etc.). The fact that they were basically of Turkic
ethnic stock is established beyond doubt. To view them
as Goths, ethnic Hebrews, Slavs or Ugrians (these are
some other "theories") is sheer kookery. Naturally
other peoples lived within the realm, including
non-Turkic Jews. During one of their "times of
trouble" a number of Khazar tribes joined up with the
proto-Hungarians, and were important enough for the
Byzantines to refer to the early Hungarians as "Turks"
(Tourkoi). After the destruction of their empire in
965 a smaller polity continued on for a while, and the
Khazar community in Tmutorokan' maintained its
influence into the 12th c.******

> There is no proof that they were Turkish other than
> the fact that they
> reached the height of their power
> at a time when Turkish cultural influence was
> all-pervasive in the region.
> Their presence was recorded in southern Russia
> centuries before the Turks
> were even heard of.

*****GK: You are obviously confusing the terms
"Turkic" and "Turkish". The first important Turkic
group in Eastern Europe were the Huns, and they
arrived in the 4th century, long before the
Khazars.******


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