[gothic-l] Re: Greutung, Treving, Rus

[george knysh]

--- Francisc Czobor <fericzobor at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > *****GK: ... the
> notion
> > that a distinct Gothic language persisted among
> the
> > Crimean "Goths" is not absolutely certain.******
> >
> A distinct Gothic language persisted among the
> Crimean Goths at least
> until the 16th century.  In that century, the
> Flemish Ogier Gislain
> van Busbecq (ambassador of Emperor Charles V) met in
> Constantinople
> Crimean Goths, from whom he collected a list of some
> 80 words and
> short phrases. That language is clearly Germanic
> (with some Iranic
> influence) and some words (like ada "egg", fyder
> "four", mine "moon",
> mycha "sword", ies "he") prove that it is a
> descendant of Gothic.

*****GK: Francisc,my only source for the Busbecq list
was Vasiliev's work on the Goths in the Crimea. That
is also where my doubt comes from. Have you any
additional references? By the 16th c. there should
also have been discernible Greek and Turkic influences
on this language. Has this been demonstrated?*****



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