[gothic-l] Heruli / Harii
Troels Brandt <trbrandt@post9.tele.dk>
trbrandt at POST9.TELE.DK
Mon Dec 9 23:57:57 UTC 2002
Earlier at this list Andreas Schwarcz and George Knysh concluded that
the attacking "Borani" in 267 AD could mean "people from the north"
and that "Elouroi" could mean "people from the swamps" both
symbolizing people of other names.
The versions we use as the names for the attacking Heruls Goths
according to Procopius - are earlier translations from Germanic to
Greek and Latin maybe being influenced by a first misunderstanding
of "Elouroy" - and being later "frozen" by writing. To a certain
degree these versions could be independent of the development of the
Germanic pronouncation of the name until the Heruls disappeared in
the 6th century.
In the same way Tacitus' Harii is just a translation of a Germanic
name which elsewhere is unknown to us though maybe deriving from
HarjaR
If we as an experiment assume that the Heruls were Harii mixed up
with their neighbours Goths and maybe Alani at the Black Sea could
then runic "ErilaR" (450-550 AD) and German/Latin "Herilungo-" (832
AD) be a natural Gothic/Germanic development from "HarjaR"/"Harii"?
Would it make sense to add the diminutive suffix "-ila" to
HarjaR/Harii? Is it correct that this suffix could mean "belonging
to"/"part of"? Is the similar diminutive suffix "-ul" in any language?
Could Alanic/Iranian influence alternatively cause the "u" or "l" in
Heruli?
Troels
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