Fwd: Re: Re: [gothic-l] Fwd: Re: [tied] Harii/Hirri into (H)eruli?

[george knysh]

cross posting with author's permission. GK
--- Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski at inetia.pl>
wrote:
> To: cybalist at yahoogroups.com
> From: Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski at inetia.pl>
> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:52:48 +0100
> Subject: Re: Re: [gothic-l] Fwd: Re: [tied]
> Harii/Hirri into (H)eruli?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george knysh" <gknysh at yahoo.com>
> To: <cybalist at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [gothic-l] Fwd: Re: [tied]
> Harii/Hirri into (H)eruli?
>
>
> > A cross posting. What do you think of Troels
> Brandt's
> > idea that "Heruli" came from "Harii" via
> Sarmatians or
> > Greeks?
>
> ["The meeting between Harii and Alanic Sarmatians
> was another and with the Greeks a third. In such
> cases I do not believe that the system with
> the reconstructed rules and *words will work."]
>
> I don't understand the idea, frankly. How is a Greek
> or Sarmatian "filter" supposed to help in this case?
> How does it explain the difference between what's
> expected and what's observed? If all that Troels
> Brandt wants to say is that in a contact situation
> involving two or three languages situation anything
> goes, I can only say that (1) it isn't true (loans
> and words affected by foreign influence have their
> own regularities), and (2) it's self-defeating (if
> in such a linguistic configuration no constraints
> have to be observed and a plausible etymology cannot
> be distinguished from an implausible one, the "Harii
> -> Heruli" etymology is just arbitrary speculation).
>
> Piotr
>
>


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