[gothic-l] Re: Odin the man - medieval scholarship at its best

?????? ???????? vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Wed Dec 18 08:13:04 UTC 2002


Hi Einar!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

I didn't suggest any etymologies to Odin/Wothan. 
I only drew attention to similar roots in Baltic 
and Slavic languages. (Accordingly, neither Verner 
nor the vowel shift have anything to do with the subject.) 
Of course, this similarity may be occasional. But what if not?

 

BTW you noticed quite right that Snorri had depicted Odin 
explicitly as a mortal person that is extremely unusual for gods.

 

Vladimir

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Einar Gunnar Birgisson <einarbirg at yahoo.com> [mailto:einarbirg at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:43 PM
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Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Odin the man - medieval scholarship at its best


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "vernonpeberty <vernonpeberty at y...>" 
<vernonpeberty at y...> wrote:
   # Hej. I would leave out the Nobel in this case. I have never 
heard that Odinn was especially a Wind God. That must be a great 
oversimplification or simply not right. Odin was associated with 
skaldship, war, magic, wisdom among other things. He was said to have 
55 names and control many things at his liking, probably the wind as 
well. So he was a multi-natured god.
Snorri's Odinn was a man, a leader of a southern tribe migrating to 
the Mälar Valley in the about 5-6th century (according to the 
Chronology). Odinn and the others were humans and died a human death. 
Snorri is describing a ancestor cult were humans later become gods or 
rather representatives of various things, like fire, the elements etc.
But all this could also be symbolism. So according to Snorri, the 
Asatru's (in the beginning an ancestor-cult)origin is in central East 
Sweden. I think that could more or less harmonize with the accepted 
view (and the chronology). I wonder about the etymology of Odinn in 
the light of what Vladimir said about the "ringleader". Interesting 
indeed.####



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