[gothic-l] Re: "Eruli", "Goths", "Danes" and wherefrom the runes

[Troels Brandt <trbrandt@post9.tele.dk>]

Hi Dirk

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Dirk Faltin <dirk at s...>"
<dirk at s...> wrote:

>>Those Heruls who went to Italy after their defeat
>> in 509AD, were likely Arian Christians. They also
>> must have included the highest ranking members of
>> the Herulic royal clan, because otherwise they
>> would not have been received by Theoderic.

You could argue for the opposite conclusion as well. Why should he
give himself all that trouble - he needed strong warriors.

..............
> The
> integration of Heruls into the Langobards can be deducted from the
> Historia Langobadorum, which reports that the Langobardic king took
> the royal insignia of the Herulic king. This act likely meant that
he
> also took the overlordship of the followers of Rodolph, the last
> independent Herulic king.

No - just that they were defeated by him and that he took possession
of their land and maybe 3 remaining Heruls.


> Also, interation of defeated enimies is a
> directly attested custom for the Langobards and will no doubt have
> taken place in 509AD. Wacho's marriage to Silinga, the daughter of
> Rodolph was likely instigated in order to facilitate the
integration
> and garner support among Herulic factions among the Langobards.

Normally these marriages were used for alliances - not for their own
subjects. Are you sure she was a daughter of Roduulf and not of
another Herulian king? What does the source tell us?

Troels


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