[gothic-l] Re: Ostrogothic Dress

Tore Gannholm tore.gannholm at SWIPNET.SE
Wed Feb 6 12:01:19 UTC 2002


>--- In gothic-l at y..., "ingemarn2000" <ingemar.nordgren at e...> wrote:
>>  --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
>>  > Here is the URL to a page (in German) which shows on top a
>picture of
>>  > one of the famous mosaics from San Apollinare, Ravenna. The text
>>  > draws attention to the fact that the three persons in the middle
>of
>>  > the picture (i.e. the 3 holy kings) are dipicted in trousers,
>with
>>  > cloaks and so called Phrygian caps. The text states that this is
>>  > probably typical Ostrogothic dress of the early 6th century, as
>>  > opposed to the other figures, who wear classical Roman dress.
>>  > Interestingly, Amalasuintha was also depicted wearing this
>Phrygian
>>  > cap, which might indicate that the text is right and Goths wore
>this
>>  > type of headdress.
>>
>>  Hi Dirk!
>>
>>  Thank you for this information. I have since long beleived the
>>  Sparlösa rune-stone in Västergötland to depict a Gothic Arian motif
>>  with a cathredal, a ship with crossed sail, two gothic peacocks and
>a
>>  rider hunting with  a phrygian cap on his head and a sword pointing
>>  tovards a beast- jaguar or something - and followed by a dog. Now it
>>  is confirmed he wears a Gothic cap. This means Christianity  might
>>  have arrived in Sweden already in the 6th century among individuals
>>  just as I have since long claimed.The stone is however dated till
>9th
>>  century which is  evidently dubious now. It is written in the young
>>  futhark but a lot of the writing is corrupted and impossible to
>read.
>>   There is one known younger inscription also. Maybe there is an
>older
>>  writing in the corrupted part. A mystery indeed.
>>
>>  Kindly
>>  Ingemar
>
>
>Hello again Ingemar,
>
>I had a look at this rune stone:
>
>http://home.no.net/ahruner/se-rune-sparloesa.jpg
>
>
>I must say it requires a good deal of imagination to see the head
>dress of the horse man as a Phrygian cap. Also, the sail of the ship
>is a give-away that the stone cannot date to the 6th century, as
>sails were not used on the Baltic Sea at that time.
>
>cheers,
>Dirk
>

Sorry Dirk,
Västergötland is not on the Baltic Sea. I recommend a map.

Why do you insist that sails were not used in the Baltic in the 6th century.

Have you got any proof? We have discussed this earlier.

Some of the large "skeppssättningar" stoneships must have used sails 
or rather their originals.

They date to 8th-5th century BC


Tore
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