[gothic-l] Gothic Archaeology was Re: Whence the Eruli

faltin2001 dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Tue Feb 19 13:13:36 UTC 2002


--- In gothic-l at y..., Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at s...> wrote:
> >Dear Dirk,
> >
> >Very interesting the facts presented by you, that confirm the
> >suspicion that arose in my mind reading other text also, mainly on
the
> >Wielbark culture.
> >The modern contestation of such legend-based sources is not
something
> >ssingular in the case of Getica. For instance, the Hungarian
scholars
> >of the 19th century and early 20th century considered that "Gesta
> >Hungarorum" of Anonymus (12th century) represents the absolute
truth
> >regarding the migration and land-seizing of the Hungarians (9-10
> >centuries). But now the Hungarian scholars are largerly contesting
the
> >auuthenticity of the facts presented in this early Hungarian
> >chronicle.
> >But now appears another problem: if not from Gotland or
Scandinavia,
> >then where came the Goths from? If I remember correctly, the Polish
> >scholars are presenting the Wielbark culture as autochthonous. This
> >would mean that the territory of this culture represents the
> >Proto-Germanic homeland? (probably in fact they moved here from the
> >homeland that was situated westwards, following the land route
rather
> >than sailing on the Baltic Sea).
> >
> >Francisc
> >
>
>
> Francisc,
> See my previous reply to Dirk.
>
> Almgren had the emigration from Gotland in the 3rd century BC.
> This now fits in with the Polish view of the Wielbark and read also
> Gothic connections


Tore,

there was no Wielbark culture in the 3rd century BC. There is general
aggreement that the culture emerged only around  0 AD.



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Tore,

did you really read Brierbrauer's publications before accusing him of
gross professional mis-conduct? Bierbrauer is one of the leading
experts in the field and I think you would like his publications more
than you think.

Dirk




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