[gothic-l] Re: Trailing the Eruli in the North

[troels_brandt]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
>
> > The Herulian mercenaries of Odoacer got land as wages - or the
> income
> > hereof. How do you know in which coinage they got their income?
>
> Since they were in Italy they will have received primarily coins of
> the Italian mints. In fact, Grierson and Blackburn stated in 'Early
> Medieval Coinage' that the strong increase in Italian mint activity
> in the late 470s reflected Odoaker's need to pay off his solidiers
> and mercenaries.


Yes, but if they got land, Odoaker did not have to pay them in coins.
This was probably his way to tie them.


> That is true, but since it was you how wrongly called
> the Basiliscus coin in the Ottar mound 'a coin of Odoaker'
> I felt it necessary to clarify this.
>
> >I regard the coin in Ottars mound as symbolic.
>
>
> Well I think it shows that this king Ottar or people in his
> vicinity had some sort of contact with Constantinopel.


Exactly - and after earlier admitting my misunderstanding I
understood from you, that the coin was from 476/77. The year 476 AD
is said to be important in Uppsala's Aun-calender - and symbolic in
Roman history.


> > I do not believe the Pannonian Heruls were mercenaries of
> > Theodoric, as they did not go to Italy after their defeat.
>
>
> The North Danubian Heruls were allies of Theoderic. Their king was
> made son-in-arms of Theoderic. Whether this resulted in any kind of
> subsidy payments to bolster his son-in-arms we don't know.


We know one letter to Roduulf and then the letters to Heruls, Varnies
and Thuringians showing that Theodoric tried to form alliances
against the Franks. In my opinion the following events did in no way
indicate that he succeeded, and even if he did, there is no
indication that he had to pay for it.

.............

I have noticed your comments about the coins. Unfortunately 5 solidi
and the words "tend to" do not bring me much further. As you earlier
wrote that ALL Scandinavian solidi are from Constantinopel, I have
one stupid question: How sure are you about the registration of the
mints at these Scandinavian solidi?

Troels



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