[gothic-l] Re: Trailing the Eruli in the North - solidi

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at y..., george knysh <gknysh at y...> wrote:
>
> --- faltin2001 <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > Hello George,
> >
> > can I ask what 'Sindic' means. Is that a people or
> > kingdom?
>
> *****GK: The recent work of Oleg Trubachov (published
> in 1999. I have only read those portions which
> appeared earlier as discrete articles and am trying to
> get the new volume) has conclusively demonstrated that
> the Sinds and Maeoti (tribes which inhabited the
> Tamanian area and the shores of the Azov sea up to the
> mouth of the Don) were Indo-Aryan in speech, and were
> "left behind" when the main cohorts of this ethnos
> moved southeastwards beginning in the early 2nd
> millennium BC. The Sinds [They were already mentioned
> by Herodotus as neighbours of the Scythians who
> "visited" them in wintertime by crossing the iced-up
> strait of Kertch in waggons. We know them as "Indians"
> or "Hindus" because Iranic language intermediaries
> have dropped the initial "s" or substituted an "h" for
> it] had their own state in the period ca. 500-350 BC,
> with a capital at Sindika. They were incorporated into
> the Bosporan Kingdom in the 4th c. BC and their
> capital was renamed "Gorgippia". Evidence from Pliny
> suggests that they had retained their linguistic
> peculiarities into the 1rst c. AD. Afterwards they
> increasingly came under the influence of Sarmatians
> and were progressively Iranized.*******


Very interesting, but they seemed to have had no link with western
Europe, which could have caused them to imitate Roman denari.




>
> >(D) In the Russian/Ukrainian literature, the coins
> were
> > also
> > called 'moneti neizvestnogo naroda', i.e. coins of
> > the unknown
> > people. Can you venture a guess who could have
> > produced highly
> > abstract imitations of Roman denari in this area
> > between 260AD and
> > 360AD?
>
> *****GK: I could try though this would only be a
> "guess". What additional information is available as
> to the "cultural context" (archaeologically) of these
> coins? Are there Welbark or Chernyakhiv
> (Cernyachov)elements there? Or is it something else
> entirely?*****
>

I would need to go back to the article by Kazamanova, who listed
hoard finds of these coins and speaks a bit about archaeology and
excavations sites where these coins were found. Maybe something canbe
infered from this, but I think she does not mention any names of
material cultures. A number of the coins that I have were found in or
near a place called 'Novyi Svit' in the south of the Crimean.
According to the existing grouping these coins date from about 300 to
350AD. But this may not be of any help in narrowing down the group of
possible originators.

Do you have easy access to a journal called 'Vestnik Drevnei Istorii'
(apologies for my transliteration)? Kazamanova's articles are
published in this journal.


cheers,
Dirk




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