[gothic-l] Re: Goths, Gauti, Goetaland, Gotland

[einarbirg]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> _The Role of Migration in the History of the
> Eurasian Steppe - Sedentary Civilization vs. -
> 'Barbarian' and Nomad, (ed. Andrew Bell-Fialkoff),
> London: Macmillan, 2000, 355 pp.
> ______________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> As others before him Bell-Fialkoff also point to
> the fact that Sweden historically "looked" east and
> south, not west (which was the way Norwegians
> "looked", for instance). The other side of the Baltic
> was the traditional area of interest. The natural
> thing, which i so obvious that it is not mentioned
> by the editor, is that if you want to go southeast
> from Goetaland you end up in the Vistula delta
> and the surrounding area. The ethnogenesis occured
> eccording to Wolfram between the rivers Oder
> and Vistula.
> 
> Gothically
> 
> Bertil

Hæ Bertil.

Thanks for your info.
I dont know what to belief about the origin of the Goths.
I think we have a very complex problem here.
I think that many Continental scholars are against the idea of a 
Scandinavain origin. Partly because they are not so much of a experts 
of Scandinavian history as they are of the Continental one.
There can be other reasons too.
Icelandic archaeologists claim that there are no remains to be found 
showing the activity of Celtic people in Iceland.
Genetic scientists have another story to tell.
So lets be cautious beliefing any firm statements from anyone 
whatever expert he is considered to be.

The above you say about the Swedish "looked" to the east and south 
must be a outdated view. Traditionally there have been migrations 
from Sweden to present day south/south west and eastern part of 
present day Norway.
And to the coastal areas around Trondheim.
And all these areas are to the west.
And Viking activity of the Swedish in the West is much more than 
generally believed.
To solve this question we have to define what people lived in south 
and south west Norway.
And the ruling families settling Iceland were definetely not 
Norwegians.

According to Ottar the merchant then Norwegians must have been the 
people living in coastal areas of present day west Norway.
That later changed when they managed to gain influence and rule the 
eastern territories as well. But all that happened after 900 A.D.

Cheers Einar

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