[gothic-l] Re: ZDF Program on the Goths
faltin2001
dirk at SMRA.CO.UK
Wed Mar 13 08:26:19 UTC 2002
--- In gothic-l at y..., george knysh <gknysh at y...> wrote:
>
> --- faltin2001 <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > >(Tore Ganholm): As we earlier have discussed on
> this forum there
> > was a common
> > culture
> > > in northern Poland, Gotland and coastal areas of
> > southern Sweden in
> > > the centuries before the forming of what we today
> > call the Wielbark
> > > culture.
> >
> >
> > Tore,
> >
> > that simply cannot be correct, or are you arguing
> > that the Okcywie
> > culture was also present in Scandinavia? To give you
> > the answer - it
> > was not and it has nothing to do with any
> > Scandinavian culture or
> > region. Thus the Wielbark culture, which included
> > the Goths is based
> > on a culture that is clearly distinct and completely
> > unrelated to any
> > Scandinavian culture! Surely, contacts existed, but
> > these were
> > spuradic and alien to the Gothic Wielbark culture
> > (see Bierbrauer on
> > that)
>
> ******GK: Poles contend that the etymology of the
> place name near Gdynia which gave its name to the
> pre-Wielbark Oksywie culture is Old Scandinavian...
> Allegedly "OXIHOVED", meaning "ox's head". Can our
> Scandinavian list participants verify this?*****
>
Dear George,
you should not fall for such stories. There is no way that a
placename like Oxthoefte goes back 2000 and more years to
Scandinavian immigrants. The second part of the name '-hoeft' does
not mean head, but farm (Hof or Ge-hoeft) in German. Oxhoeft means
simply Oxen farm. The area was settled and cultivated in the 13th
century by Frisians and the placename Ossnhof, Osnhoven still exists
in Frisia.
cheers,
Dirk
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