[gothic-l] Re: Gothic Religious Ancestry

[ingemarn2000]

--- In gothic-l at y..., keth at o... wrote:


> There was, I think, also a remark about Scandinavian
> Weapon graves beginning in the Roman Age again at Bornholm.
> Weapon graves then began to come to West Norway also in the
> Roman Age. But apparently it wasn't possible to give a definite
> date, since it wasn't a sudden appearance, but rather something
> that happened over a certain period of time, so that it can
> be called a gradual introduction.

Yes, the Roman time starts with the 1st c.AD so that is correct. The
first weapongrave I know of is not until in the 3rd c.AD.


> I also saw that in the beginning 19th century, most historians
> and archaeologists seemed to be holding various theories
> about so-called "invasions". These were then various more
> or less definite tribes that invaded Scandinavia at various
> times from (say) 100 to 500 AD.

Never heard of that. A group Heruli are mentioned to have moved here
but not invaded. Attacks were performed towards Gotland and Denmark
around 2-300 AD  from unknown enemies, but hardly invasions.

> The books also said that the Migration Age was the graet age
> of West Norway, with incredibly rich archaeological finds.
> In particular one cannot fail to note the amounts of gold.
> The gold that had been sparse, almost absent before that,
> now began to appear in large quantities. Archaeologists
> working in the field, now see this gold as originating
> in the Roman Empire, and it is explained as a result of the
> trade between the Roman Empire and West Norway increasing very
> much during this period. Perhaps due to great improvements
> in ship technology, with the North Sea becoming a kind of
> "Northern Mediterranean" during this period. Trade with
> both Denmark as well as Frisia and the Franks is suggested.
> This also included England. The ships may in fact have largely
> followed the coasts. Down to the Antwerp area, and from there
> across to England.

Well, I think they forget some earlier finds and the connection
between Norway, combs  and heavily armed warriors being defeated at
Illerup ?dal. The Migration Period in South-West and not only West
Norway was indeed a great period. I say however it did not only depend
on trade with the Franks and western Europe. They had old Gothic
connections and at this time, when England was settled, there was
chance of plunder.This part of Norway - South-Western and   also the
Eastern - was just one of the early Gothic areas in Scandinavia. They
indeed also had a special measure scale based on Roman
measures/weights.I have written of that in my book.

Best
Ingemar





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