[gothic-l] Re: Digest Number 538

[george knysh]

--- Tore Gannholm <tore.gannholm at swipnet.se> wrote:
> Dirk,
> I have difficulties with your interpretation of
> authochtonous.
>
> I can agree that when the "Gothic league" was formed
> in say about
> year zero it was formed by groups living in the area
> and in that
> sense authochtonous for that century.

*****GK: Yet also keep in mind, Tore, that if you wish
to identify the early Goths with the early Wielbark
culture, then you are talking about a very small area
indeed of Wielbark. Earliest Wielbark (phase A+B)
included a chunk of Pomerania plus about 70 kilometers
of the Lower Vistula from its mouth on the Baltic
southward. From the very beginning, the Goths (if that
is where they were) would have shared this territory
with other groups: Rugii, Lemovii, and Venedi. I find
it difficult to accept the notion that Maroboduus had
enough power to include the Goths into his empire, but
not enough to extend it a few kilometers further to
the coast. That is why I argued that perhaps we should
seek these earliest Goths further south, in the later
Wielbark area C, which in the period 0-50 AD was
occupied by the Przeworsk culture. But there are
difficulties here too, which I hope to settle in a
while after studying Kokowski's book on Przeworsk.
Note that it is only in area C of Wielbark that
peculiar "Scandinavian" aspects are archaeologically
identifiable after 50 AD. Though later there will also
be such "Scandinavian" indicators in many Wielbark
graves of Ukraine (along with strong Przeworsk
elements). So clearly our search for the early
Continental "Goths" is a very complicated enterprise.
We should proceed cautiously, step by step.******


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