[gothic-l] Re: Goths, Goetaland, Gotland

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> An interesting book on matters of the Germanic-Gothic
> homeland is  _The Role of Migration in the History
> of the Eurasian Steppe__(ed. A. Bell- Fialkoff),
> London:Macmilan, 2000). I am pleased to note
> that the editor is of a view of a southern
> Scandinavian origin:





This book by Musset, is basically a reprint of his work published in
the 1970s. Unfortunately, no effort was made to take account of the
developments of the past 25 years. The quotes below are a good
example, of how outdated the book is. In fact, it is often not even
refered to in new research. If somebody has limited funds to spend,
don't waste it on this book and get something more up-to-date. ;-)

Dirk













>
> "Musset (a French scholar, my note) placed their Urheimat
> (the Germanic peoples, my note) in southern Scandinavia
> in the late Bronze Age, an area where no pre-
> Germanic linguistic substratum had been found
> (p. 4).

>From there some Germanic tribes spread
> along the Baltic coast, toward the Oder. Others
> followed the coast of the North Sea, toward the Weser.
> By 1000 BC, according to Musset, German habitat stretched
> from the Ems to central Pomerania (Demougeot dated
> their appearance in Pomerania much later, from 400 BC [
> Demougeot, 1969, 45]. If we follow Musset, by 800 BC
> Germans reached Westphalia in the West and Vistula
> in the East. And 300 years later they could be found on the
> lower Rhine, in Thuringia and Lower Sileasia (Musset, I, 4)."
>
> Lucien Musset, _Les invasions: les vagues germanique_, Paris:
> Presses universitaires de France, 1965.
>
> Emilienne Demougeot, _Le formation de L'Europe et les
> invasions barbares_, Paris: Editions Montaigne, 1969-1974.
>
> Gothically
>
> Bertil
>
>
>
>
> > There is a more recent book, by a real historian and real experts
> > (not a hobby historian and journalist like Peter Arens), which
should
> > be most interesting for those still flogging the Scandinavian
origin
> > theory. The book is by Walter Pohl and is called 'Die
> > Voelkerwanderung: Eroberung und Integration', Kohlhammer Verlag,
> > 2002.
> >
> > I shall provide a synopsis of some of the material from the book
> > later on. But in short Pohl discusses the supposedly Scandinavian
> > origin of Goths, Langobards and Burgundians and shows
conclusively
> > that modern historians and archaeologists reject this for all
three
> > peoples.


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