[gothic-l] Re: Pronounciation

[matt6219]

Thanks for your reply also, Matthew.
Judging both from your reply and from Dirk's, would i be right in
thinking therefore that we are not sure how either Goth or Getae was
pronounced ?
If so, then both could well have been pronounced with "g" as
in "Greek", or both "g" as in "German" (i.e. as "j") ?  Is there
anything which would show this to definitely not have been the case ?


--- In gothic-l at y..., "M. Carver" <me at m...> wrote:
> Hails!
>
> In Roman engraving and writing from early times C has been used
for G. Originally, there was no G, for which C
> stood. K was lost or something and C came to represent both C and
G. Eventually by adding a stroke to C they made
> the letter G. I think that's how it goes. Anyway, it was common to
use C, for instance Gaius was simply written C.
> even in later times. I don't know whether this practice was still
in use at the time of the Victoriae Gotthi
> inscription, but it seems likely. I only remember this from Latin
class and don't have any books to quote from right
> now.
>
> Cheers,
> -Matthew
>
>
>
> faltin2001 wrote:
>
> > --- In gothic-l at y..., "ravichaudhary2000" <Ravi9 at h...> wrote:
> > > --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One point perhaps, on coins, so-called Antonianiae and Aurei
of
> > > > emperor Tacitus (not to be confused with the historian) the
name
> > of
> > > > the Goths is spelled 'VICTORIAE COTTHI'. I have two of these
> > > > Antoniniae with full silver-wash, i.e. in the highest
possible
> > > > condition, yet the name of the Goths is definitely spelled
with
> > > > a 'C'. It could of course mean that this was a fashion of the
> > time,
> > > > yet on coins of Claudius II, Quintillius and Aurelianus the
name
> > of
> > > > the Goths is spelled with a clear and unmistakeable 'G',
> > > > i.e. 'VICTORIAE GOTHIC'. At any rate, is it possible that the
> > > writing
> > > > of the name Goths with 'C' and 'TT' reflected some sort of
> > > > pronounciation at the time?
> > > >
> > > > Dirk
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this an isolated example ?
> > >
> > >  and
> > >
> > > how do you go from Cotti to Goth or viceversa ?
> >
> > Hi Ravi,
> >
> > the fact that Cotti refers to Gothi on Tacitus' coins is
undisputed.
> > Firstly, the inscription Victoriae Cotti refers to victories over
> > people called Cotti. The ony victories that the elderly Tacitus
> > achieved in his short reign were over the Goths. I think he was
even
> > awarded the title of Gothicus. Finally, if I remember correctly
> > contemporary sources stated that the emperor celebrated his
victories
> > over the Goths with this coin series. Hence, 'Victoriae Cotti'
is the
> > same as the Victoriae Gothic on the coins of his imidiate
predessors.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Dirk
> >
> > >
> > > This may be unrelated, but
> > >
> > > The classical greeks, wrote of SandraCott-us, and also
SasiCott-us,
> > > these are identified , mostly, with indian names -
ChandraGupta and
> > > SasiGupta., which appear to sanskritized versions of Chandra-
gut.
> > >
> > > Thus Gupta( the G as in Greek)  is also derived in eralier
times
> > from
> > > Gut,( G as in German ), though Gut which also means a 'group'(
G as
> > > in Greek). also exists.
> > >
> > > I could not help note the similarity
> > >
> > > Input appreciated
> > >
> > > Ravi
> >
> >
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