[gothic-l] Re: (unknown)

[faltin2001]

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> I have not a direct answer on your question 
> regarding the "barbaric" word "balan". 
> But I draw your attention to the Russian word 
> "bulany" as a horse color. "Bulany" is regularly 
> translated in English as "dun" though old 
> Russian explanatory dictionaries treat the notion 
> as "ore-yellow, yellowish of diverse tints, 
> with the mane and tail being black or deep-brown, 
> and usually with a strap along spinal column".
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> I do not know the exact origin of "bulany" but 
> Turkic (Kuman) extraction looks most probable. 
> I guess you should search in this direction.
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> Good luck,
> 
> Vladimir
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Hi Vladimir,

perhaps 'belyi' Russian for white is a possible link? Not sure 
what 'white' would be in Old Slavonic.

cheers
Dirk 










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> From: greg scaff [mailto:g_scaff at y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:22 AM
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> Subject: [gothic-l] (unknown)
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> Hails,
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>      I am curious as to the origin of the word "balan", mentioned 
in Procopius'  History of the Wars, V, XVlll, in my vol, p 
173, ",,,and his whole body was dark grey, except that his face from 
the top of his head to the nostrils was the purest white.  Such a 
horse the Greeks call "phalius" and the barbarians "balan." Within 
the context of this passage it seems that Procopius was referring to 
Ostrogoths as the barbarians in question, but not definatively.  I'm 
aware that "balan" is unattested as a Gothic word.  Can it be 
identified as having  a known Iranic/Turkic/Arabic or other origin? 
Are there any Germanic  cognates? Has anyone studied this word 
before?  I would appreciate your ideas and comments, thank you.
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> Greg
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