[gothic-l] Map of the Germanic (Gothic?) place-names in Poland

[Егоров Владимир]

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Hi Reikhardus!



I share, to a certain extent, Ingemar's raptures regarding
your map. The idea itself is praiseworthy. I hope that
your joined, with Ingemar, efforts will enrich the map
in the future.



Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention
to some dubious premises on the map.



1) pelta<ful?o. There was the word 'pelta' in old Baltic
meaning bog, morass, swamp, marsh. Necessity to attract
'ful?o' is more than questionable.



2) szkwa<struko and skrwa<struko. First, both derivations
look strained. Second, why do you obtain two different
Polish derivatives from the same conjectural Gothic source?
Third, there are numerous toponyms and hydronyms with
postpositional '-va' on the ancient Baltic territory
(including modern Russian Plane).



So, all this seems as if you would put onto your map
a few old Baltic names.



Best regards,

Vladimir



-----Original Message-----
From: galadhorn [mailto:galadhorn at inetia.pl]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:17 PM
To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gothic-l] Map of the Germanic (Gothic?) place-names in Poland


Here ( http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/graphics/germania_low.jpg) I have
published a map made by me (using the maps: "Germanic place-names"
from Z. Babik's "The Oldest Place-name Stratum in Today's Poland"
(Cracow 2001) and "Archeological cultures in today's Poland in the
Late Roman period - 3-4 C." from Kaczanowski, Kozlowski's "The
Oldest History of the Land of Today's Poland") which shows the
Germanic place-names in the teritory which in the antiquity was
populated by the Goths and Gepids (Wielbark Culture).

I would like to hear your opinion about this map. I have tried to
reconstruct the Germanic forms of the names (according to Babik's
book and to the newest Polish research). Babik ennumerates 23 Pre-
Slavic Germanic place-names in Poland. I will add the Silesian names
soon.

Reikhardus



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