[gothic-l] Re: Vladimir

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Thank you, Lars!

 

Of course, Vladimir/Valdemar is not a Norse name. 
Then of which origin is it? It may have either 
Slavic or German etymology, but is obviously 
compound (two-component) that is more typical 
for German names. Meanwhile the second component 
-mir/-mer is encountered in "Getica" by Jordannes 
in some names of Gothic rulers.

Derivation of Vladimir from the Gothic language 
looks very promising.

 

BWT, 
the Russian cognate to "maðr" is "muzh" not "mir", 
hence "Vladimir" is hardly derivative from "valdmaðr".

 

Vladimir

 

-----Original Message-----
From: brugerfejl [mailto:lars.larsen at ring-danes.dk]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:11 PM
To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [gothic-l] Re: Vladimir


Hi,
Just to the origin of Valdemar/Vladimir.
To my best knowledge Valdemar is not a norse name, in Scandinavia I 
think the common opinion is that it derives from Vladimir and not 
the other way round. I have not heard that Valdemar was in use 
before the 12 century and often as name for kings or powerful men. 
Probably the vikings travelling east must have known that Vladi 
meant 'to rule' anyway Valdemar would be an perfect name to 
a 'scandinavian' king as Vald meant power, dominion, violence. A 
norse word 'valdmaðr' did exist but as far as I know only for naming 
a 'public officer/ authority' or whatever that would be in english...

Cheers 
Lars




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