[gothic-l] Re: Baltic Amber

[James Young]

Thanks Dirk,

Ingemar said something like that too, but what I' m talking about is while Hermanric is establishing dominance over the Alans and Vandals between the Don and the Volga while most of the the Huns were still east of the Caspian Sea fighting Parthians and Kushans and getting their buts kicked by the Guptas. I think it was more like a refusal to pay the protection for the northern caravans and the implied threat of sending his own enforcers that pissed off Balamber and his boys enough to go west where even if the Goths were tall and using Roman veterans and tactics; at least they didn't have elephants.

Jim

faltin2001 <dirk at smra.co.uk> wrote:
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, James Young <daddio52 at s...> wrote:
> Ingemar,
>
> Do you think Hermanric, the Ostrogoth, was trying to cut the Huns
out of the northern silk routs?



Hi James,

from the little sources we have it looks as if Ermaneric was mainly
trying to survive when the Huns arrived, let alone was he trying some
sort of trade embargo against the Huns.

Cheers






>
> Were there two Athanarics?
>
> Jim
>
> Ingemar Nordgren <ingemar at n...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "James Young" <daddio52 at s...>
wrote:
>
> > As early as the Agustus era a merchant was sent to the Baltic to
make
> > purchases of Amber He reported back that there was a
sophisticated
> > wholesale system established on the coast. Could this have been
> > controlled by the Goths?
>
> Hi James,
>
> I know of that visit and it seems as he visited the Elblag area.
This
> area is later by Jerzy Ockulicz connected with the Gepids but also
the
> Vidivarii are mentioned in connection with this. I am personally
> convinced the Goths controlled at least part of the amber trade and
> later the great tradecentre was in Elblag. Gutenbrunner saw this as
> the first incitament for the Goths to settle in the Vistula-area.
>
> Best
> Ingemar
>
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