[gothic-l] Re: The numbers

[Fredrik]

So, if I ask for something and will end it with 'please' I should
say 'bidja'. And when i get it i should say 'awiliudo thuk'. But then
when he will answer me 'you're welcome', how is that said?


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Francisc Czobor" <fericzobor at y...>
wrote:
> Dear Jim,
>
> I don't understand what you mean by a "modern" Gothic calendar.
> A form of "modern" Gothic could be considered the Crimean Gothic
> attested in Busbecq's word list of the 16th century, but that list
> (approx. 80 words and short sentences) doesn't contain anything
> related to a calendar.
> But there is preserved a short fragment of a Gothic calendar
> originating from the Ostrogothic Italy (6th century). You can find
it
> at the following address:
> http://www.wulfila.be/gothic/text/minora/Kalender.html
> What is remarcable in that calendar is that the month of November,
> called in Gothic "Naubaimbair" (pronounced [november]), was also
> called "fruma Juleis" = "first Yule", thus is almost sure that
> December was *anthar Juleis ("second Yule"). This is an indication
> that also the Goths had the pagan Germanic holiday of "Yule" (which
> was reinterpreted by some of the Christianized Germanic peoples
> as "Christmass").
> As you can see in Koebler's English-Gothic finder
>
(http://www.koeblergerhard.de/germanistischewoerterbuecher/gotischeswo
> erterbuch/NE-GOT.pdf)
> the noun "thanks" is in Gothic "ansts" or "thagks" (pronounced
> [thanks]) or "awiliuth", and the verb "to thank" is "awiliudon"
> or "fairhaitan". The exact equivalent of the English
> expression "thank you" is in Gothic: awiliudo thuk.
> Regarding equivalents for English "please", the following Gothic
> verbs or expressions could be taken into consideration:
> bidai anahaitan "to request, to demand"
> bidan "to ask for, to beseech"
> bidjan "to pray, beseech, request, entreat, ask for, ask a favour"
> gabidjan "to say a prayer, pray, request"
> usblotan "to pray, adjure, implore, supplicate"
> It seems that the most appropriate would be the verb "bidjan",
which
> looks as an almost exact equivalent of the German verb "bitten".
> Thus "please" = German "bitte" = Gothic "bidja".
>
> With best regards,
> Francisc
>
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, James Young <daddio52 at s...> wrote:
> > Francisco,
> >
> > Please, your answer to Fredrik was so thorough, mabe you can help
> me.
> >
> > What do you know about Gothic calendars, historical (4th or 5th C
> CE) and/or modern? And, as Mother always insisted, how do I
> say "please" and "thank-you"?
> >
> > Thank-you.
> >
> > Jim
> >




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