[gothic-l] Re: Spanish Goths

[Ingemar Nordgren]

Hi Denis,

I would appreciate all other information you may have about these
agotes. I have been trying to find the Visigothic restpopulation and
their destiny after 711. It was indeed not only the little realm up
North in Asturia I am looking for  but the rests in the former areas
that later became French. I have had theories they influenced Cathars
and Albingensae, or rather that their old Arian ideas later affected
these movements.Your information they indeed stayed Arian fits
exellent with my theories since not the whole population must have
converted with the kings.

Merci beaucoup pour l'ínformation de cagots. Je voudrai volontiers
reciper plus information en ce sujet, quand je travaille actuallement
avec le question de Goths restée et pas seulement avec le resistance
en Asturie.

Miquel est autres sont aussi bienvenu  a m'écriver personallement en
Allemagne. Peutêtre plusieurs de membres  ne pas parle Allemagne mais
nous savons au moin un autre.

Best
Ingemar


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Denis Glenard" <denisglenard at y...>
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm interested in finding out more in the "agotes" (spanish name) or
"cagots" (french name) who lived in the basque country up until the
19th century.
> Some scholars pretend they are the Wisigoths running away from the
Moor invasion of Spain. Those who found refuge in the rest of the
Northern mountain range were assimilated into the population, but it
seems that the basque somehow ostracized them. They were originally
forbidden from living in the villages, could only settle in the woods
and could only work in wood related jobs. They were christian (aryans)
but had a separate (small) door and benches in church. They were
forbidden to marry with catholics and carried basque-sounding specific
surnames (on the french side "Chrestiaa" is one).
> 
> This "apartheid" lasted into the 19th century when they were finally
allowed to integrate the rest of the community.
> 
> Now, my question is, these people having stayed separate from the
rest of the population for quite a long time, wouldn't specific
"germanic" genetic markers be present in their descendants' genes ?
Has this ever been studied ?
> 
> And last, what's their name in english ?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Denis GLENARD
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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