[gothic-l] Re: bireikei* & bnauan* (Köbler)

[llama_nom]

In Krause & Helm, ON *bnu'a is printed thus as hypothetical.

I'm afraid I don't know anything else about how du & dis- might have
come about.



--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "thiudans" <thiudans at y...> wrote:
>
>
> > *BNAUAN
> >
> > Strange.  So where is OIc bnu'a attested, I wonder?  (Not in
Zoega,
> > not in CVig. (I can't find it in the searchable text collection
here:
> > http://www.lexis.hi.is ), and yet Gordon/Taylor `An Introduction
to
> > Old Norse' not only mentions it, but tells us that it has been
added
> > to the reduplicating VIIth conjugation by analogy with snu'a,
etc.
> > Is this an assumption on the basis of nu'a & gnu'a?)  On the
other
> > hand, Wright and Braune/Helm imply that Go. bnauan belonged
> > originally to Class VII, but may for all we know have become
Class 3
> > weak, like trauan, and partially bauan.
> >
> > Are there parallels for a loss of /h/ in OIc nu'a?
> >
> > To be honest I hope you're wrong, as it's a shame to lose a word
> > beginning /bn/!  Not a great linguistic argument, granted...  At
> > least my spell checker recognises "fnast", which is some
consolation.
> >
>
> I have to agree. I wrote the piece on bnauan earnestly until
looking at Fick. The problem
> seemed to me the desire to have *bnauan < *bi-nowwan, when you had
sn-, gn- (?<ga-
> n-) and hn- forms as well. Anyway I almost erased it, as I did
with a couple pieces on ib-
> (ibuks, ibdalja).
>
> du- and dis- still bother me. There was a discussion in one of the
journals, I read long ago
> before taking note of what I was reading. Know of anything
concrete?
>
> cheers,
> Matthew





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