SV: [gothic-l] Hansa

[WILHELM OTTO]

Hi Terje,
Cabor wrote:
as Tore already pointed out, "Hansa" is a common Germanic word, the
reconstructed form being *hanso

Tore Gannholm wrote:
Die Engländer kannten
diese Bezeichnung freliich schon viel länger als Bezeichnung für
freiwillige Zusammenschlüsse von Händlern auf fremden Märkten: In der
«flandrischen Hanse von London» hatten sich Kaufleute aus Ypern,
Brügge, Lille und anderen flännschen Städten zusammengeschlossen.

The word is common, it is known "all over the world", and still does not pop
up until 1267 and does so in London. It is connected with trade, German
Handel (m), and eventually the Lübeck organisation of tradesmen. Roman
Catholic tradesmen from the Baltic, Germans, Danes and others were organised
in crafts, very close to the guilds. The craft seems to organise the
business aspect and the guild handled the more social aspects. The crafts
and the guilds cooperated close to groups of churches. Such a group is in
Denmark called St. Hans Churches, and consequently there were St. Hans
Guilds.

An example of this closeness is that the Churches were used as storage for
the tradesmen. You may still see the crane to handle the gods in the tower
of the German church in Visby. And during winter, when the Novgorod fair
area was evacuated, the relevant documents were stored in the same church,
although the keys were kept in different places.

This was a long journey through the trade quarters in the middle Ages. My
point is that Hanse, Hansa may derive from Hans i.e. Johannes, St. John, as
a collective name for tradesmen organised closely to those churches and
guilds. What do you say?
Wilhelm

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Ämne: [gothic-l] Hansa

Hello!


I'm working on a school paper about the Hansa organisation, and I've found
texts that say that "Hanse" means "group of armed men", obviously in German.
I'd like to know if there are any cognates in other Germanic languages.
Words from the middle ages or earlier is what I'm aiming for, but later
words might also come in handy. So I'm basically looking for the origin of
the word and its relatives, as it were.

Terje

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