[gothic-l] Re: Barbarians and Gladiatorial Combat (MORE DOORS)

llama_nom 600cell at FSMAIL.NET
Tue Oct 19 15:08:08 UTC 2004


UPDATE:

More Houses of Many Doors:

In Bosi & Herraud's Saga (Bósa saga ok Herrauds), the magician king 
Gudmund of Glasisvellir has a hall with a hundred doors.  And a 
recurring motif in Scots Gaelic folktales is the idea of a house with 
a door for every day of the year (see JF Campbell: 'Popular Tales of 
the West Highlands') - which suggests an astronomical myth.

Also re. Valhall, the first element of the name Hlidskjalf has been 
linked to a Norse word for 'gate', as though possibly inspired by (or 
contrariwise, the inspiration behind) the many doors of Odin's hall.

Llama Nom

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <penterakt at f...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mikael,
> 
> How did barbarians see the gladitorial combal?  As paradise, 
> according to one scholar!  Have you heard of M Olsen's theory that 
> Valhall was a memory of colloseum?  As described in Grimnismal and 
> Snorri's Gylfaginning, Valhall has 540 doors, and houses warriors 
who 
> spend every day fighting each other.  Rudolf Simek, in his 
Dictionary 
> of Northern Mythology (original: Lexikon der germanischen 
Mythologie) 
> suggests that even if the orignal heathen idea of Valhall was not 
> based on the Roman games, later knowledge of the colloseum could 
have 
> influenced the literary description.  He also mentions - although I 
> don't know the reason - that the number of the einherjar (Odin's 
> warriors) might show Hellenic influence: 800 x 540 = 432 000.  But 
> this doesn't work if Grimnismal intended the Germanic 'long 
hundred' 
> (=120).
> 
> Llama Nom
> 
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Mikael Bynke" <adragoor at p...> 
wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I'm going to write an essay on non Roman attitudes towards 
> gladiatorial
> > combat during late antiquity, and I'm wondering if anyone knows 
> about any
> > sources containing information about how the Goths (or indeed 
other 
> germanic
> > tribes) viewed these spectacles. Didn't Theoderic try to revive 
the 
> practice?
> > Otherwise I've always had the feeling that non Romans in general 
> and especially
> > "barbarians" were quite sceptical towards the phenomenon. Am I 
> right about
> > this? Does anyone have any further opinions?
> > 
> > Mikael Bynke
> > 
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