[gothic-l] Re: Barbarians and Gladiatorial Combat (MORE DOORS)
llama_nom
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Tue Oct 19 15:08:08 UTC 2004
UPDATE:
More Houses of Many Doors:
In Bosi & Herraud's Saga (Bósa saga ok Herrauds), the magician king
Gudmund of Glasisvellir has a hall with a hundred doors. And a
recurring motif in Scots Gaelic folktales is the idea of a house with
a door for every day of the year (see JF Campbell: 'Popular Tales of
the West Highlands') - which suggests an astronomical myth.
Also re. Valhall, the first element of the name Hlidskjalf has been
linked to a Norse word for 'gate', as though possibly inspired by (or
contrariwise, the inspiration behind) the many doors of Odin's hall.
Llama Nom
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <penterakt at f...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> How did barbarians see the gladitorial combal? As paradise,
> according to one scholar! Have you heard of M Olsen's theory that
> Valhall was a memory of colloseum? As described in Grimnismal and
> Snorri's Gylfaginning, Valhall has 540 doors, and houses warriors
who
> spend every day fighting each other. Rudolf Simek, in his
Dictionary
> of Northern Mythology (original: Lexikon der germanischen
Mythologie)
> suggests that even if the orignal heathen idea of Valhall was not
> based on the Roman games, later knowledge of the colloseum could
have
> influenced the literary description. He also mentions - although I
> don't know the reason - that the number of the einherjar (Odin's
> warriors) might show Hellenic influence: 800 x 540 = 432 000. But
> this doesn't work if Grimnismal intended the Germanic 'long
hundred'
> (=120).
>
> Llama Nom
>
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Mikael Bynke" <adragoor at p...>
wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I'm going to write an essay on non Roman attitudes towards
> gladiatorial
> > combat during late antiquity, and I'm wondering if anyone knows
> about any
> > sources containing information about how the Goths (or indeed
other
> germanic
> > tribes) viewed these spectacles. Didn't Theoderic try to revive
the
> practice?
> > Otherwise I've always had the feeling that non Romans in general
> and especially
> > "barbarians" were quite sceptical towards the phenomenon. Am I
> right about
> > this? Does anyone have any further opinions?
> >
> > Mikael Bynke
> >
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