[gothic-l] Re: Usage of J, I or Ï
llama_nom
penterakt at FSMAIL.NET
Wed Sep 8 15:11:36 UTC 2004
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> Can someone please tell me the rules of when to use ï instead of i.
> And also if it is better to use some of them instead of j, e.g.
> initialy.
Hi Fredrik!
In the Gothic script, <ï> and <i> are both used for the high front
vowel /i/. (Actually the Gothic <i> had no dot, so it looked more
like Greek Iota, rather than the Roman <i>). In some names taken
from Greek, <ï> can also stand for the semi-vowel /j/, whether
initially or in the middle of a word.
The Gothic script always used the sign <ï> at the beginning of words,
and medially after a vowel not belonging to the same syllable. In
all other positions <i> is used. Modern editions tend to print both
<i> and <ï> as <i>, although they might follow the spelling of the
original in regards to consonantal <ï> between vowels.
Some examples (not necessarily attested in these forms, but just to
make this clearer):
ïmma - to him/it
fraïtan - eat up, devour (from fra + ïtan)
Akaïa - place name, Achaia (SEE BELOW)
Ïesus - Jesus
lists - cunning
laists - track
kuni - race, tribe, people
<j> is used in native Gothic words to represent the palatal semi-
vowel /j/ (like Swedish <j> or English <y>). In loanwords from Greek
(Biblical names of people and places) this semi-vowel /j/ is
sometimes represented by <ï>, sometimes by <j>. There is no hard and
fast rule to say which will be used, but it's possible to see some
tendencies:
Biblical names beginning with Greek Iota almost always represent the
consonantal /j/ by <ï> (Ïesus, Ïohannes, etc.). There are a small
handful of names that do use <j> for Greek Iota, e.g. Jannis < Gk.
Iannes. The name of the mother of God is invariably Maria, while the
woman healed of devils is Marja Magdalene. Naturalised loanwords
(e.g. placenames already familiar to the Goths) generally have <j>,
e.g.: Makidonja, Aikklesjo (Braune & Helm, 1956, §43 A.2). Sometimes
the same name is spelt in different ways, note Gk. Achaïa > Got.
Akaja, Axaïa + dat. Akaijai; and the corresponding adjective becomes
in Gothic gen.pl. Akaje.
Older naturalised loanwords from Latin all have <j>, e.g. faskja,
plapja (mistake for *platja), etc.
I hope that's not too confusing!!
Llama Nom
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~-->
$9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/wWMplB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~->
You are a member of the Gothic-L list. To unsubscribe, send a blank email to <gothic-l-unsubscribe at egroups.com>.
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gothic-l/
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
gothic-l-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
More information about the Gothic-l
mailing list