a Gothic poem (verse 3)--syntax, word usage
Roman Rausch
aranwe at MAIL.RU
Wed Aug 24 13:04:52 UTC 2005
>The genitive plural of 'guþ' "god" would be 'gude', a neuter a-stem,
>but takes masculine attributes in singular when applied to the
Christian
>god. Perhaps you were remembering *Gutane "of the Goths" (from the
>Pietroassa inscription <gutani>)?
Oh, an a-stem.. Probably I keep confusing the two because both are
_Got-_ in German..
>I take it you mean "quick" in the archaic English sense of "living" -
>- in which case, that's right.
Yes - archaic words favored in poetry, though this one will surely be
misunderstood, so 'a living spirit' should be sufficient.
Regarding _saiwala_:
Is it possible that the concept of an immortal soul was applied to
this word during the christianization? So the pagan Germanic tribes
didn't know such a thing; at the early stage of chrisitiniaztion it
was still used for a bit different things; but later, when the
Catholic church became predominant its meaning was further restricted.
Well, and my text isn't really Christian in content..
>Sentences in OE poetry can be very long and
>loose, with much paratactic incrementation, so I think what you've
>done is quite in keeping with that.
Well, except for the ending-rhymes instead of alliterantions. :-)
>du leitilamma mela raihtis bruks was ... iþ...
>In this last example, RAIHTIS seems to have strayed quite far into
>the sentence, but in fact I think this still counts as "second
position"
It has also ventured farther than usual in _ikei ana andaugi raihtis
hauns im in izwis_ 'who in presence am base among you' (Cor.II,10:1).
But with the usual second position the only way to keep it in the end
of the line seems to be a breaking up of the sentence over two lines..
And this is getting too complicated, mhm.. let's try something else:
Þaírh ita diwand mahteis,
Akei galiuhtjiþ nahtins
Or would _Jah sik galiuhtjand nahteis_ be also possible for the second
line?
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