[gothic-l] the word "the" as in "the house" or "the car"

[OSCAR HERRERA]

in gutiska,the ist so thau sa...so or sa is the word or depending on the sentencing of using the as an article or whatever....oscar
åÇÏÒÏ× ÷ÌÁÄÉÍÉÒ <vegorov at ipiran.ru> wrote:********************
Hi Peter!

Gothic had definite articles, i.e. analogues to English , 
but, leaving this item to more competent members of the Gothic-L, 
I'd like to note that Spanish is NOT an Arabic word. 
Otherwise we should accept Italian and French also 
as loan words from Arabic, which seems unbelievable. 
More probable (and widely accepted) is derivation 
of the definite articles in all Romance languages from Latin 
'this, that' for various genders. 
Thus origination of the Romance article is the same as for 
Germanic one (cf. English from or High German 
from etc.). 
Though the change of in Italian to in Spanish 
may reflect some Moorish influence. 
By the way, the idea itself to put an article before all nouns 
may penetrate late Latin just from the Gothic, Langobardic 
or other Germanic languages.

Vladimir


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Subject: [gothic-l] the word "the" as in "the house" or "the car"


Hi fellow lovers of the written language,

Does anybody know what the visigoths might have used
for the word "the." Spain uses an arabic word for
"the" which is the word "EL." What the [edit] did the
visigoths used prior to the moorish invasions? I
imagine that they used something from their old gothic
language. Perhaps something akin to ostrogothic or
even something before they split up to become the east
and west goths. 

Peter 

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