Is this a matter for the Gothic list?

[Tore Gannholm]

Hi,
Have you read Kaliff's book "Gothic connections"

  http://www.stavgard.com/Gotland/gothicconnectio_/gothic/default.htm

Tore





On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Wilhelm Otto wrote:

> Dear Gothic list,
>
> Is this a chat list just for the language itself or for a wider  
> approach to
> the gothic culture, as history?
>
> If it serves the later purpose as well I will raise a subject. I  
> have just
> read Peter Heather:
>
> “The Goths” and this book gives me an entirely new view of the old  
> gothic
> world. He tells us about Jordanes’ Gethica and claims that it is among
> contemporary historians Jordanes’ fault that people still believe  
> the Goths
> originated in Scandinavia before moving across the Baltic.  
> Secondly, from at
> least the the third century the Goths was divided into two groups: the
> Visgoths and the Ostrogoths and thirdly that these groups were led  
> by two
> families with unique royal prestige, the Balthi and the Amals.
>
> These ideas, Peter Heather says, have set an agenda around which  
> argument
> has raged.
>
>
>
> I have been trying to discuss the first of these topics, the  
> exodus, on a
> Swedish chat list and am very confused by the response. There are  
> members
> who claim there has been an exodus, although Peter Heather claims  
> that the
> dating of relevant objects from both sides of the Baltic shows that  
> there
> has been none. And Peter Heather seems to be a man who to day  
> carries the
> weight of argument. I have a general feeling that in Sweden the Gothic
> exodus is a valueloaded topic, and that it is difficult to give it  
> a fair
> treatment.
>
>
>
> For me this is a matter of preserving my bearings in a world I  
> thought was
> rational, at least in these circumstances.
>
>
>
> Is this a topic for the Gothic list?
>
> Wilhelm Otto
>


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