new and in search of help
kyrus88rook at AOL.COM
kyrus88rook at AOL.COM
Thu Jul 27 18:54:21 UTC 2006
I really appreciate the help (fr Thiduans and Ualarauans)
In a message dated 7/27/06 1:19:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
thiudans at yahoo.com writes:
> The
> optative for the weak 3 conjugation, 2nd. sg. person, is identical to
> the indicative. I am not familiar with a word "targa" but an enclosure
> I would think normally translates as "gards" or "garda" and I don't
> see that the object need be taken in the dative with (ga)weihan.
>
Well, from the material I do have on hand, I see that targa has an
asterisk in front of it so im assuming it to be a reconstruction/neologism, but I
have no source listed or cognate from another gmc language by which it was then
used for said reconstruction (via ablaut,etc). Gards seems a better choice
for enclosure in a sacred sense anyway.
The materials I've been learning from so far: Wright's gothic grammar
(1910 ed), Grimm's Teutonic Mythologies (interesting but at odds with more
updated reconstructions), the online lessons (Salo) and an abbreviated G Grammar
based (althoguh I don't know to what extent) on work by Carver and Salo. I am
in no way a linguist (I'm a railroad conductor) so this is all pretty new turf
for me.
In a message dated 7/27/06 1:19:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
thiudans at yahoo.com writes:
Thunr (voc.) is probably right. The 2nd sg. ind. for *(ga)weihan W3 is
(ga)weihais, imper. (ga)weihai. In the Bible the optative is usually
used with God, so maybe you would want to do the same with Thunr.
I'm looking at an imper. from Wright (#434,p192): atta, gif mis sei
undrinnei... 'Father, give me the portion of property...' would it be a similar
situation:
Garda is a weak masculine word. >>sa(ei) gardin?
Thunr! Weihai saei gardin.
Thanx yet again, and apologies for the stupid questions :)
Will
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