Emigration av (some) Goths

[macmaster at RISEUP.NET]

Actually, Galician (or Gallego as it is called) is a Romance language
closely related to Portuguese (it's sometimes considered a dialect of
Portuguese) and is spoken in the northwest corner of Spain, immediately
'above' Portugal.

It's actually a good example of my point of how names move around. 
There's also a Galicia divided between Poland and the Ukraine and formerly
a part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire that happens to have the same name
(it's a latinization of the name "Halych" and has nothing to do with
Celts.  The region around Ankara in Turkey used to be called Galatia (iit
appears in the New Testament as such) due to Celtic settlers.

Northern Italy was Cisalpine Gaul in Roman times and France was Gaul, of
course.  All but the Polish region do show a relation with the ancient
Celts but not so much with modern speakers of Gaelic (except that all come
from the same source).

As has been pointed out, there are several place names/peoples in what are
now Sweden and Denmark that look a lot like "Goths" - Geats, Gotlanders,
Jutes and so on.  Are they all the same people?  maybe but maybe not.

There are also "Danes" scattered all over the Indo-European diaspora, from
the Hebrew Tribe of Dan that seems to have been one of the "sea-peoples"
initially through the Greek Danaans of Homer and the Irish Tuatha de
Danann to the Don Cossacks and so.  Are they all one people?  Of course
not ...

While it's nice to imagine ourselves as descended from magnificent ancient
peoples, sticking to the actual stuff of history is more convincing and
sometimes more exciting.  With the Goths, let's try to stick to what is
actually known from the written sources and from archaeology.  To me,
that's fascinating enough.

Tom macMaster


joe wrote:
>     In the March 2006 edition of National Geographic there is an article
> on the Celts, their history and culture. It includes a map showing
> where Celtic people currently live in Western Europe..and it includes
> Brittany in France and Galicia in Spain.
>
>  akoddsson  wrote:
>  Yes, but France is, admittedly, a rather large nation. Perhaps one
>  should look at provincial populations more closely, as several
>  groups in France would seem to exist as smaller cultural groupings,
>  common language aside (Basks an exception here). Consider, for
>  instance, the Gaelic population of Galitia (wrong spelling, no
>  doubt ;) From what I understand, they still speak a kind of Gaelic.
>  I discovered on a radio program that they also play some fierce and
>  beautiful Gaelic music, closely related to Irish. There are likely
>  numerous other links. Thus, I don't believe that cultures simply
>  disappear due to emigration by some members.
>
>
>






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