Visigothic identity of Spain
macmaster at RISEUP.NET
macmaster at RISEUP.NET
Wed Nov 15 21:34:05 UTC 2006
Could that be a Suebian name? That would make more sense than a Burgundian
in the region - and would be, I'd guess, even more likely than a Visigoth.
Tom MacMaster
ualarauans wrote:
> Well, strictly spoken, Gundemarus is not Gothic, but Burgundian.
> Notice the voiced stop [d] and the long [a:] which features are
> clearly North-West Germanic, shared by Burgundian (as a result of a
> longer intercourse?) unlike other East Germanic languages. The royal
> Burgundian dynasty favored names with the Gund- element: their kings
> were called Gundacharius, Gundobadus, Gundeuechus et sim. Gothic
> *Gunþimêrs ("battle/famous") would probably appear as Gunthemirus in
> a Latinized source.
>
>> It is a fact, anyway, that under the dictatorship of General
> Franco in the
>> past century in Spain, there was an interest in exalting the
> Visigothic past of
>> Spain and in linking the origin of the Spanish modern nobility to
> the Gothic
>> one. Most people who are now from 50 to 60 years old had to
> memorize the list of
>> all the Visigothic Kings when they were children at school. The
> term "list of
>> the Gothic Kings" is used often in modern Spanish to refer to a
> dull and boring
>> task.
>
> How is it in Spanish? I know there are still some expressions in the
> language of today which go back to the times of, if not the
> Visigoths themselves, then the rise of the Spanish Gothicism. Could
> you please refer to some list of such phrases, or maybe post it
> here? Thanks in advance!
>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Rydwlf
>
> Ualarauans
>
>
>
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