Visigothic identity of Spain
Wolfgang Franz
wolfgang.franz at VR-WEB.DE
Sat Oct 21 17:06:56 UTC 2006
Hello Ingemar.
A little article about Wulfila's creed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wulfila
Regards,
Wolfgang
Am Freitag, 20. Oktober 2006 21:10 schrieb Ingemar Nordgren:
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Wolfgang Franz <wolfgang.franz at ...>
>
> wrote:
> > Hails.
> >
> > What is written here about Arianism is wrong. The Arians saw Jesus
>
> Christ as
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> > the son of God, God by himself. Created before the creation through
>
> him the
>
> > whole creation is created. Nicaia and Constantinople found that
>
> Christ is not
>
> > created but procreated as creation can not save itself. For Nikaia
>
> God Son
>
> > and God Father are of "equal substance", for Arius of "similiar
>
> substance".
>
> > What you write about Nicaia and Constantinople is in fact more or
>
> less the
>
> > Arian way of thinking.
>
> No Wolfgang, this is only a later developement. Arius and his folks
> originally meant Jesus was a human but was divined because of a
> righteous behaviour like a bodisattva. Christ was but an incarnation
> of God in the shape of Jesus. Jesus was however in an unexplicible way
> fathered by God through Mary.
>
> Best
> Ingemar
>
>
>
>
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