Was the word "kunig/kunigas/kunigur" a gothic word?
urba_kestutis
urba_kestutis at YAHOO.CO.UK
Tue Sep 26 12:57:29 UTC 2006
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "John Larsson" <john.larsson at ...>
wrote:
>
> From: "Arthur Jones" <arthurobin2002 at ...>
> 1. Several place names in the Crimea that are Gothic in origin,
but were
> metabolized into Tatar, including "Gun-charna", now
pronounced "Hun-charna",
> which has no possible Slavic contaminants. It originated as Gothic
> "Kuni-qairnus", or "Tribal Mill" (see Wulfilan "asilu-qairnus",
or "donkey
> mill"). It also has nothing to do with Hunnic ancestry, as the
Huns fought
> continuously against Crimean Goths, but were unable to penetrate
or settle
> deeply into the Crimea (even if such had been their primary
intention!). The
> "qairnus" word appears elsewhere in Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria
(Kvarna). It
> is an early version of Swedish "kvarna", English "churn", and
other Germanic
> _karne-_ derivatives such as "Karnemelk".
> ==================
> Thank you Arthur,
>
> Swedish "kvarn" and Danish "kvaern" fit well into this, but I
think
> "kaernemaelk" (buttermilk) is related to "corn" (i. e. the essence
of milk).
> Therefore am reluctant to "churn"!
>
> Regards
> John
>
Hi,
In lithuanian we have GIRNOS for millstone and simmilar word U can
find in sanskrit, so it is possible to attach this word for the
neolithic time of agriculture spreading. KUNIG I derive directly
from Greek word hunter (transcription is something like)KUNEGGOS or
KUNEGGETES. So The KING in the beginning was the best chief hunter
(using canis) - leader of the tribe. this is possible the most
simple explanation, I hope.
Best regards
Kestutis K.Urba
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