Was the word "kunig/kunigas/kunigur" a gothic word?
ualarauans
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Thu Sep 28 02:34:44 UTC 2006
Kails, Urba!
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "urba_kestutis" <urba_kestutis at ...>
wrote:
>
> about (2) - in prussian language there is rikis and this sounds
like
> lithuanian rekti - the meaning to shout and rikiuoti - to make
order
> in some millitary troop ar army, so for me - rex is the great
> shouter near his army and order maker. The king is the best hunter
> according to the greek word for hunter kunegos
Prussian ri:kis is most probably a Gothic loan, as so much of the
Prussian word-hoard are. Most likely their ancestors were Jordanes'
Uidiuarii, Go. *Widuwarjos "forest dwellers" and/or probably
Aesti - *Aisteis (ad litus autem oceani, ubi tribus faucibus fluenta
Uistulae fluminis ebibuntur, Uidiuarii resident, ex diuersis
nationibus adgregati; post quos ripam oceani item Aesti tenent,
pacatum hominum genus omnino. - Get. 36). Were some left-behind
Goths or Gepides one of those "diuersae nationes"? However it were,
the later Prussians greeted each other with "kails!", their army was
called "karjis", they bore "kelmis" on their heads, and they
counted "ains, dwai..." These are just a few examples of Prussian
Germanisms (Gothicisms?). There's an interesting fragment of a
Prussian ceremonial language in Jeronymus Meletius' "Von den
Sudauitern..." which reads: "und wenn die maalzeit entschieden ist,
und das tuch aufgehoben, so dancken sie dem, der das jährliche
gedächtniß gehalten hat, und heben an zu sauffen, Kayles, postkayles
eins periandros"; in Goettinger manuscript "...Kails poskails ains
par antres". Which phrase is usually reconstructed as an exchange of
greetings:
- Kails! "Hail!"
- Pats kails, ains par antros! "Hail [your]self, one for the other!"
where pats "self" is the only Baltic word not met in the same
meaning in Germanic (in fact, it's Gothic faths M.-i
(Gen. fadis) "leader of smth" which is the Germanic match). In High
Gothic, the whole conversation would look approximately like that:
- Hails!
- Silba hails, ains faur antharans!
As we may see, the Goths and the Uidiuarii must have had not too big
problems in their mutual communication.
As for Greek KYNHGOS "hunter", it literally means "dog driver",
Greek KYWN (Gen. KYNOS) meaning "dog", having its cognates in
Lithuanian shuo, shuva, Lettish suns "dog" (Satem language mutation
PIE [k'] > [sh]) and Gothic hunds "dog" (Germanic Sound Shift
PIE [k'] > [kh]). So, it has nothing to do with Go. kuni. Lithuanian
kunigas as well as Lettish kungs may have been borrowed either from
Gothic *kuniggs (later dropping the suffix nasal: Old Lith.
*kuningas > Mod. Lith kunigas), or, as David Kiltz suggested, from
Middle High German kunig, künec.
Ualarauans
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