identification of Flutausis as Cogaeanus
Wolfgang Franz
wolfgang.franz at VR-WEB.DE
Sun Aug 19 15:53:19 UTC 2007
Hi Frederick.
You confuse the Gepidae with the Getae.
Wolfgang Franz
Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 08:45 schrieb Frederick Louis Scoggins:
> dciurchea wrote:
> > "In the land of Scythia to the westward dwells, first of 33
> > all, the race of the Gepidae, surrounded by great and
> > famous rivers. For the Tisia flows through it on the
> > north and northwest, and on the southwest is the great
> > Danube. On the east it is cut by the Flutausis, a swiftly
> > eddying stream that sweeps whirling into the Ister's
> > waters. Within these rivers lies Dacia, encircled by the 34
> > lofty Alps as by a crown." Jordannes:V
> > (The Project Gutenberg eBook, The Origin and Deeds of the Goths, by
> > Jordanes, Translated by Charles C. Mierow
> > http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14809
> > <http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14809> : V)
> >
> > The name of the river should be Plautausis (i.e. in modern
> > Romanian 'plutashi', eng. raftsmen).
> > Indeed, this river which today starts in the mountains as Bistritza
> > and later as Siret down to the Danube was used by raftsmen until
> > 1969 to convey timber down to Danube and therefore may be taken
> > as "Plutashi">>Plauta(u)si(s), the border of Gepidia with Caucoensi.
> > According to a decent map derived from Ptolemy
> > (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg
> > <http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/macedonia_1849.jpg>) the
> > name of this river is "Cogaeonus", i.e. a name related to the Getic
> > sacred mountain Kogaion.
> > The term "koga" is used locally today as an insult for the
> > strangers, foreigners (not in dictionaries); the official name is
> > Neamtz(usually denoting a german; the word is actually formed
> > starting from the root "neam"=stock), as an euphemism for foreigner,
> > since today there is a small ucrainean community there; perhaps in
> > antiquity Starbon(7:3:5) was told about the "Kogaionon" the border.
> >
> > I am glad to learn that the toponimic transcripted by Jordannes was
> > in fact genuine Romanian (i.e. Wallachian), as with Galtis on Alutha.
> >
> >
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> Once again the historian Jordanes was incorrect in identifying the
> Gepidae as German. Please stop using his flawed historical assumptions.
> They (the Gepidae) were never of that stock but alleged to have been a
> remnant of the Sumerians. They (Gepidae) were destroyed by Trajan in the
> 2d Century A.D. What remained of the ancient Dacians, the Gepidae were
> absorbed by the later Huns, Magyars and other Slavs. Here is a good
> scientific research project, examine the Gepidae DNA/RNA with present
> day Dacians, Bulgars and Romanians. Match with the DNA of Sumerians and
> see what the human genome says.
>
> Frederick Louis Scoggins
>
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