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Wed Jul 11 11:41:20 UTC 2007



Is it possible to draw any conclusions from Germanic place names about
how long Gothic may have survived in Provence and Iberia?

LN


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "raul catalan ramos"
<shaitani1348 at ...> wrote:
>
> I have "argued" about this point with my friends several times.From
my point 
> of view, according to the number of words inherited from east
germanic, it 
> is very unlikely the employ of gothic by goths in Hispania, becasuse
most of 
> germanic words in nowadays spanish is limited to only a handful
examples (as 
>   "guerra" (written "Werra"  in the ancient sources , meaning "war") or 
> "bosque" meaning "forest", both of them nearby the same as the
italian words 
> for war, "guerra", and   forest,"bosco"). On the other hand, the
lack of 
> written sources in gothic can't be used to deny the employ of gothic
among 
> goths in hispania, because the written sources from this period are
closely 
> related to the highest elites of society, whose focus was the roman
(and  
> then bizantine) culture and the employ of Latin. I agree with the
idea that 
> gothic vanished in a few generations, but I think that it must
endured for 
> some time in rural areas far from the cities.
> 
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