millennium

llama_nom 600cell at OE.ECLIPSE.CO.UK
Tue Feb 26 10:27:57 UTC 2008


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "ualarauans" <ualarauans at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Lombard" <manielombard@> wrote:
> >
> > Hails Walahrabn!
> 
> jah þu ni siukais, Manie!

Sundai sijaits jut bai!
 
> > Oops, yes :))) Thanks
> > 
> > So it is faura Xristau, but afar Xristu ? (or faura Xristáus 
> gabauranana; afar
> > Xristáus gabauranamma?)
> 
> faura Xristau gabauranamma and afar Xristu gabauranana respectively. 
> Actually this is a calque from Latin (post aliquem natum "after 
> smbd. was born"), I don't know if it was acceptable to say so in 
> genuine Gothic. The accent on birth may be appropriate since we 
> count years from this precise date (be it real or artificially set 
> later), not from "Christ's time" in general.

Old Norse has a similar construction, including examples from sources
presumed not to be translations from Latin: 'eptir hann dauðan' "after
his death"; sízt mína sonu dauða "since the death of my sons"--lit.
"after him dead" (acc.) and "since my sons dead (acc.)".
 
> Afar Xristau is not absolutely wrong, I must say. Temporal afar 
> rules accusative, that's right, but u-stems all too often confuse 
> dative and accusative.

Þata bruk wairþ, þan gameilein Albibairhtis Ainstainis bi spedistin in
gutiskon gaskeirjam.

This will come in handy when we get round to translating the writings
of a certain well known physicist into Gothic.

> > <Couldn't it also be *Mati-swinþa?
> > 
> > (mats, mati-) meat-(swinþ) strong?
> 
> Why not? More appetizing than *Maþa-swinþa "worm-strong" :) 
> Seriously, I was thinking of "measure-strong" or smth alike.
> 
> Thanks for the quotation from N. Wagner!

I second those thanks! Very interesting. Mahti-swinþa sounds
reasonable to me. The only other alternative I'd encountered was the
idea that it was related to Celtic math "good".

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