construction of gothic scandinavian urheimat

[OSCAR HERRERA]

i i think our suppositions are unfounded about the goths.....they migrated from gutland to the european mainland and transgressed with their migration south thru centuries...we understand little about the germanic tribes and their customs before medeival times so supposition means little of them or the goths....i think its pretty obvious that germanic tribes expanded thru population then and simultaneously descended thru out europe.....i think the goths did the same with no help of other races or cultures around them....

Ingemar Nordgren <ingemar at nordgren.se> wrote:          Hi,

I can as well suggest you read my opus where I try to find out the
possible connections between Scandinavia, Wielbark and
Chernyakov-Sintana de Mures. The Goths consisted of many groups of
different origin from time to time, but still they had a common
tradition/ethnic glue which I think was originally of religious
character. Read 'The Well Spring of the Goths' available on Amazon and
many other sites.

Best
Ingemar

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Tore Gannholm <tore at ...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I can recommed Anders Kaliff's book Gothis connections
> 
> http://www.stavgard.com/romaniron/goterna_/gothic/default.htm
> 
> Tore
> 
> 2 maj 2008 kl. 11.51 skrev Michal Cigan:
> 
> > Hi,
> > some times (maybe year/s) ago i saw a piece on this board
> > treating of (or better linking to) the theory, that Goths
> > did not came from Scandinavia, but rather they - or their
> > group identity - were established only later and on another place; 
> > from germanic tribes living beside roman limes (if I remember 
> > correct the topic of the piece). Could someone remind me the source 
> > of this theory; book, or maybe make correct this my opinion, if my 
> > flashback is more or less wrong...
> >
> > Michal
> >
> > Fredrik <gadrauhts at ...> wrote: Hi all. I hope that there 
> > still are a few fellows here so this isn't
> > totalt in vain.
> >
> > I though about words for civilization and verbs to describe it, like
> > civilize.
> >
> > After I thought a while I came up with an idea which was based on the
> > word un-mana-riggws which means smth like fierce, cruel, barbaric and
> > took the oposite word mana-riggws to mean civilized, (mostly an
> > oposite meaning of barbaric). As noun I used mana-riggwitha (sf). I'd
> > like to know what riggws is and what it mean.
> >
> > Later I found out that I already translated the word 'civilized' but
> > forgot about it. At that earlier time I used uf-hausjands as the
> > meaning 'behaved'.
> >
> > I also think there's a connection between the words civilization and
> > culture, both coz civilized countries/people have a higher culture.
> > And the icelandic word has a connection. Right now I can't tell for
> > sure but if I remember correct civilization is siðmenning or smth
> > like that and siða (a verb) means to bring up and menning (not sure
> > if thats totally correct either) means culture, probably from a verb
> > meaning 'to make a (behaved?) man of'
> >
> > Any ideas about this?
> >
> > What would the gothic word for the Cultural Revolution be?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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