Vanir

[Tore Gannholm]

Hi Oscar,

Eastern and western Scandinavia are divided by dangerous forests . Ingemar lives in the west called Västergötland. 


It does not belong to the Baltic sea culture. Their connections are south and west.

The Baltic sea area is east. In the time of Tacitus och Pliny  Gotland had trading colonies on the southern coast and probably controlled the ember trade with the Roman empire. There is plenty of trading goods from the Roman empire found on Gotland. Quite a few objects from the workshops in Capua outside Neaples from the first half of the first century. Further what the archaeologists call The Vendel era from the time of the Herul immigration to the Lake Mälar are beginning 6th century is concentrated to the Lake Mälar area and not Västergötland.

Tore


2 aug 2012 kl. 17:32 skrev OSCAR HERRE:

> i think you and ingemar are from scandinavia...so how in depth does your history go to....and it seems all germanic groups originated there and thus migrated south.....thats a very little area fer alot of different groups.....but i didnt know the romans had any type of trade or whatever with scandinavian peoples......but i wanna travel to gothenburg to check out the beauty there in vasterland....
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> --- On Thu, 8/2/12, Tore Gannholm <tore at gannholm.org> wrote:
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> From: Tore Gannholm <tore at gannholm.org>
> Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Vanir
> To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, August 2, 2012, 9:19 AM
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> Ingemar,
> I don't think there lived any Svear in Västergötland.
> 
> Further the word Svear only appears in the Middle ages
> 
> Tore
> 
> 2 aug 2012 kl. 13:01 skrev ingemarn2000:
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> > Tore!
> > 
> > You use a lot of words to write generally known things but if you all the time will continue to believe the svear specificially lived only in Uppland and the Mälar area we will come no longer. Suiones was the name used for all Scandinavian populations before their real tribal names were known from abroad. The Gautar were known earlier than the distant peoples in e.g. Uppland and hence they were called Sviar a longer time. Pliny mentions Scadinavia as you say and so does the Langobardic origin myth and Jordanes/Cassiodorus. I never thought as well the Gotland had a midnight sun. Plinius mentions the Goutai as a known name but the remaining Svia peoples are still obscure as with Tacitus they are still more obscure. Be proud for close connections with your island and the Goths and do not deny that also southern Scandinavia is as well included. Thule was the Greek name rather and quite unspecific.
> > 
> > Best
> > Ingemar
> > 
> > 
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