Re: [gothic-l] Re: is þar sind correct as they are?

Sun Mar 1 18:35:04 UTC 2015

you are insulting me when you tell my versions are wrong......I ve been going thru goth the last ten years....sure I don't know a lot of words yet but im still learnimg...... 

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 12:32 PM, "Johann Dröge anheropl0x at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

No thanks. Learn some Gothic first. There are several websites that can help you with that, as well as a ton of people here, including myself, willing to help you learn. But you need to open your mind and stop insulting us. It defies logic how you can be dead wrong about something and then get upset at us. We're here to help, not diminish.

That should sound familiar to a Gothic line, that everyone should have run by at least once.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:25 PM, OSCAR HERRE duke.co at sbcglobal.net [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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>On Sunday, March 1, 2015 12:23 PM, "Johann Dröge anheropl0x at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>What's with the random "mith" thrown in there? Can't say it all in one language?
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>How about you stop insulting others while you get everything wrong. We're having a discussion here and you're adding nothing but detracting a lot.
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>On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:18 PM, OSCAR HERRE duke.co at sbcglobal.net [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>hey johan watch your shit mith me man.....
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>>On Sunday, March 1, 2015 12:15 PM, "Johann Dröge anheropl0x at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>Whether or not it is taken from Greek, I can not say. But it makes 
sense to me. Russian actually does kind of the same thing, but obviously Russian is not close to Gothic... not unless you want to get into a 
large debate lol.
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>>The Germanic languages that I know seem 
to all have their own way for stating the existence of something. For 
example, German's "es gibt" is quite different from English "there is/are"
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>>Es gibt = it gives
>>Det finns = I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it means something like "it finds"? I don't speak Swedish yet. :c
>>Það er = Much closer to English there is
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>>On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Dicentis a roellingua at gmail.com [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>Yes Johann, you confirm what I thought. An admin of the Gothic wiki told me that thar ist for existence is fine, but I disagreed with him because I can't find that in the Gothic Bible. But is it possible that "ist" is taken over from the original Greek and there is for existence is used in other early Germanic languages?
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>>>Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft Johann Dröge anheropl0x at gmail.com [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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>>>> Oscar is a fucking idiot.
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>>>> Back to the topic,
 not making up fake words and claiming others should "take lessons"...
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>>>> I just use ïst or sind. Your example is a little bit difficult to do directly, but I might write it as:
>>>> Manna waurkjands/a ïst.
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>>>> But! If you are actually trying to point out his/her/their location (There is a working man, as opposed to here is a working man) then þar or jainar can be used. But in English, the phrase "there is/are" can be used to simply state the existence of something, without referring to any actual location.
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>>>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Dicentis a roellingua at gmail.com [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>> I studied Braunes grammar and Wrights book and I read a lot in the Gothic bible, and you tell me to take lessons lol, where did you read that nonsense of sindamma.
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>>>>> Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE duke.co at sbcglobal.net [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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>>>>> > you should have taken lessons dude......
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>>>>> > On Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:31 AM, "Dicentis a roellingua at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>> > No, they are is "sind". Where in the bible or Skeireind is sindamma attested?
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>>>>> > Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE duke.co at sbcglobal.net [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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>>>>> >> they are dude......
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>>>>> >> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 11:12 AM, "Dicentis a roellingua at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>> >> Sindamma? What's that supposed to mean?
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>>>>> >> Op zondag 1 maart 2015 heeft OSCAR HERRE duke.co at sbcglobal.net [gothic-l] <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> het volgende geschreven:
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>>>>> >>> sindamma would be better....
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>>>>> >>> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 10:35 AM, "Dicentis a roellingua at gmail.com [gothic-l]" <gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>>>>> >>> I always use "sind" or "ist", someone told me however that þar ist or þar sind can be used as meaning there is or there are too, like:
>>>>> >>> There is a man which works.
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>>>>> >>> But where is this attested except for in modern Germanic languages, and isn't it better to use what the Bible uses?
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