[gothic-l] The Gothic equivalent to the Anglo-Saxon Thegn

[Johann Dröge anheropl0x@gmail.com [gothic-l]]

There isn't. As far as I know. That's why I said what I said. Although
gmail decided to make the text super tiny for some unknown reason.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:36 PM, edmundfairfax at yahoo.ca [gothic-l] <
gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> Dear Johann,
>
> Where is the evidence that *druhtiz means specifically a 'comitatus' and
> not merely 'host, band, multitude' broadly?
>
>
> ---In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, <anheropl0x at ...> wrote :
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> This probably won't add too much, but I did find this on the wiki.
>
> "The Germanic term for the *comitatus* is reconstructed as **druhtiz*,
> with Old English <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English> forms *dryht*
> and *druht*, and Scandinavian
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_languages> *drótt*.[3]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comitatus_%28classical_meaning%29#cite_note-3>"
> Obviously *druhtiz became *drauhts in Gothic. But whether or not it did retain
> the older meaning, or if comitatus and *druhtiz actually do mean the same
> thing, I'm not yet sure. I'll try to look into it though.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Marja Erwin marja-e at ... [gothic-l] <
> gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On Mar 20, 2015, at 1:50 PM, edmundfairfax at ... [gothic-l] <
> gothic-l at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> > As European history during the last 1500 years clearly shows, Christians
> have been no less warriorlike or militaristic than the infidel or heathen.
> Need I mention the Crusades, amongst many other examples?
> >
> > Edmund
>
> But Christianity covers a lot of ground. We’d need to figure out what the
> evidence says about Gothic Christianity, in particular, and which pattern
> that would fit in other branches of Christianity.
>
> So what evidence do we have?
>
> 1. The Passion of St. Saba and the other martyrologies.
>
> 2. Reading-choice and word-choice in the Gothic bible.
>
> 3. The claim that Wulfila was the son, or perhaps the grandson, of slaves.
>
> 4. The claim that Wulfila did not translate the four books of Kings.
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> 5. The personal names of known Gothic Christians. Alareiks, of course, was
> named (or named himself) -reiks, but few known Christians of the previous
> generation had been so named, and some had been named (or named themselves)
> -thius.
>
> I think that’s enough to show a conversion from below, and a degree of
> conflict with existing power structures, and possibly with existing
> military institutions.
>
> I don’t think that’s enough to show whether or not they were leaning
> towards a peace church pattern before 376, and that had definitely changed
> by 395.
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>
> --
> *Glaðliga ríða Noregs męnn til Hildar þings.*
>
>  
>



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