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[H.M.Hubey]

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How do historical linguists evaluate these?
 
> H.M.Hubey wrote:
> >
> > Other lists are doing it, why not us :-)
> >
> > How about these:
> >
> > 1. Meroitic -k, Barea -ge: Fenno-Urgic -k 'to' (e.g. Ingrelian ala-k
> > 'down'.
> >
> > 2. Meroitic -te, Nubian -do locative suffix 'in': Old Turkish -ta, -da
> > 'in' Finnish -ta 'in'
> >
> > 3. Meroitic -k feminine suffix: Mongolian -k-chin feminine of
> > adjectives; Meroitic kdi 'woman': Turkish kari 'woman' (correspondence
> > d:r looks better than d:ss but to make the matter even more surprising,
> > there is one Eastern Turkish language, where the word for woman is
> > kissi!)
> >
> > 4. Meroitic t demonstrative, Nubian ter 'he' etc. Mongolian tere 'he'
> > 'that', Finnish 'te' 'this one' (I used te instead of ta-unlaut)
> >
> > 5. Old Nubian -ka accusative suffix: Old Turkish -g, -ig, Mongolian -g,
> > -gi accusative suffix.
> >
> > 6. Old Nubian -ka dative suffix: Old Turkish -qa, -ke dative suffix
> >
> > 7. Old Nubian -n(a) genitive suffix: Mongolian -in, -n, Fenno-Ugric -n
> > genetive suffix.
> >
> > 8. Old Nubian -r 'intentive' verbal suffix; Old Turkish -r, Finno-Ugric
> > -r factitive verbal suffix.
> >
> > 9. Meroitic tar 'give' causative verbal affix (according to Dr. Priese)
> > Old Nubian tir 'give' causative verbal affix: Old Turkish -tur 'give'
> > causative verbal affix
> >
> > 10. Old Nubian -a participle, conjunctive converb: Old Turkish -a
> > conjunctive converb
> >
> > 11. Old Nubian -ra predicative converb: Mongolian -ra final converb
> >
> > 12. Old Nubian -sa verbal participle praeteriti: Mongolian -san
> > participle praeteriti
> >
> > 13. Old Nubian -s verbal suffix, praeteritum: Fenno-Ugric -s verbal
> > suffix, praeteritum (cf. Old Nubian ki-s-in 'you came' with Wogulian
> > min-s-en 'you came')
> >
> > 14. Old Nubian -men (-m-en) negation of verbs: Old Turkish -ma negation
> > of verbs
> >
> > 15. Old Nubian -in,-en verbal suffix, 'you' 2 sg: Wogulian -en verbal
> > suffix 'you' 2. sg.
> >
> > 16. Old Nubian possessive pronoun=genetive of personal pronoun (ir
> > 'you', in-na 'your'): Old Turkish the same ('sen' 'you', san-ing
> > 'your'), Mongolian the same (chi 'you', chinu 'your')
> >
> > 17. Old Nubian -t, -it deverbal nouns: Old Turkish -t, -it,-id deverbal
> > nouns
> >
> > 18. Old Nubian -ki deverbal nouns: Turkish -ki abstract nouns,
> > Finno-Ugric -k deverbal nouns
> >
> > 19. Old Nubian min 'what', Mongolian men 'what': Wogulian men 'what',
> > Hungarian mi 'what';
> >
> > 20. Old Nubian -guria 'because of': Turkish -gore 'because of'
> >
> > This connects Eastern-Sudanic (Old Nubian) with Uralo-Altaic.
> >
> > OK. I spill the beans: these are from Fritz Hintze's article. That is
> > the reason for the strange spellings. Anyway, I think family
> > relationships based on less than this have already been proposed and
> > accepted in some cases in the Americas and in Africa. Is that right?
 
 
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Best Regards,
Mark
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