Cladistic language concepts
Michael Ghiselin
mghiselin at casmail.calacademy.org
Thu Oct 29 13:31:14 UTC 1998
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Dear Dr. Dyen,
I must apologize to list members if something happened
when I tried to forward your message.
Also please forgive my delay in answering your
commentary.
Cladistics does run into problems where there is as you
say some kind of amalgamation of lineages. Sometimes the
amalgamation is not so complete that lineages cannot be
detected. An interesting example has been the origin of
mitochondria and chloroplasts from symbiotic bacteria.
As to DNA, it turns out that the techniques that we use
with it are pretty much the same sort of thing that we have
used all along in comparative anatomy. I spent a lot of
time working with ribosomal RNA sequences and they worked
pretty well. But they did not show the clearness of
resolution that we hoped for. Some parts of the genome
change very slowly, others more rapidly. What we try to do
for the very old relationships is find something that
evolves very slowly. Linguists try to find that sort of
feature too. The frustrating thing for us is that branching
can occur repeatedly within a very short period of time, and
the branches may not be evident in the slowly-evolving
molecules. We get a sort of bush instead of a tree. I
suspect that this has happened in linguistic evolution too.
What the DNA does for us is give a lot of additional
evidence and it often helps. We will just have to keep
plugging away.
Sincerely,
Michael Ghiselin
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