good news from generative grammarians

[Andrew Carnie]

Us over in Chomsky land tend to refer to our theory(s) as Principles
and Parameters. Y'all are welcome to create an agentive nominal out of
that as you please. PP-ers ([Pi:-Pi:- at rz]) may not be warmly received.

Many thanks to all of you who responded so positively to my last message.

AC


On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Tom Wasow wrote:

> I won't try to answer your questions, but I want to register my annoyance
> with the restriction of the term "generative grammar" to GB/MP.  By any
> reasonably compositional interpretation of the term, HPSG is one school of
> generative grammar.
>
> Tom
>
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Liz Coppock wrote:
>
> > One of my professors (a die-hard generative grammar
> > guy) said, wrt HPSG (in a computational linguistics
> > class), "we presuppose all this stuff."
> >
> > He indicated a conception of the two frameworks
> > wherein one was just more abstract than the other, not
> > concerned with all the messy details, but essentially
> > compatible.
> >
> > I wonder what the people on this list have to say
> > about the relationship between HPSG and generative
> > grammar --
> >
> > Is his view accurate?
> > In what sense(s) are the two frameworks compatible?
> > Could there exist a mapping from any generative
> > grammar theory to a corresponding HPSG theory?
> > Is one more abstract than the other?
> >
> >
> > Elizabeth Coppock
> > Northwestern University
> >
> > --- Tibor Kiss <tibor at linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi everybody (as well as John N.),
> > >
> > > I just wanted to inform you that HPSG is no longer
> > > ignored by famous
> > > generative grammarians.  Prof. D. Pesetsky (Ferrari
> > > P. Ward Professor of
> > > Linguistics at MIT) writes in his recent (2000) LI
> > > monograph (p. 11fn12):
> > > "The proposal bears interesting similarities to
> > > proposals within the G/HPSG
> > > tradition ... which treat a wide variety of
> > > syntactic relations as the
> > > result of extremely local feature movement."
> > >
> > > Now they're talking ...
> > >
> > > T.
> > >
> > >
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