[HPSG-L] Is *remind* an object control verb

[Emily M. Bender]

(3) John reminded Sue to remind her.
(4) John reminded Sue to remind herself.

(4) is of course fine, and the obvious interpretation of (3) is that her !=
Sue.
I think the song lyric is what is is because (a) it's a song and so gets to
play
with the language a little and (b) there's no other way to interpret 'me'
except
referring to the speaker, so even though 'myself' would be the ordinary way
to say that, it's not possible to interpret the two instances of 'me' as
referring
to different people.

Emily

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Tibor Kiss <tibor at linguistics.rub.de>
wrote:

> Well,
>
> actually that wasn’t what I had in mind. Your example provides
> corroboration for the hypothesis that subject-stimulus verbs cannot be
> control verbs, possibly because a subtle semantic shift is applied, so that
> volitional and sentient influence is turned into causation.
>
> What I wanted to know was whether the coindexing in my example (1) is
> obligatory, i.e. whether it would be possible to also have (2)
>
> (2) remind someone_i PRO_j to do something [i ≠ j]
>
> Why do I want to know?
>
> This is the chorus from Scott Walker’s Get behind me:
>
> Get behind me, Get behind me
> Won't you bend my ear again
> I really need a friend
> Get behind me, Get behind me
> Remind me to remind me
> Not to go back there again
>
> Why is it that we don’t have "Remind me to remind myself“ (apart from the
> obvious violations of rhyme and meter inflicted by myself)?
>
>
>
> What about the status of (3) and (4) in this regard?
>
> (3) John reminded Sue to remind her.
> (4) John reminded Sue to remind herself.
>
> Best
>
> T.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Am 30.08.2017 um 09:41 schrieb Emily M. Bender <ebender at uw.edu>:
> >
> > As in: "This sign reminds not to litter"?  Ew, no.
> >
> > Emily
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Tibor Kiss <tibor at linguistics.rub.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dear native speakers of English on this list,
> >>
> >> I would like to know whether *remind*, when used with a non-finite
> >> complement, should be analysed as a object control verb.
> >>
> >> OALD assumes (implicitly, by paraphrase) that *remind*, when used with
> an
> >> infinitive, is an object control verb (INFLUENCE-type in PS 1994):
> >>
> >> (1) remind someone_i [PRO_i to do something]
> >>
> >> I am keen to know whether *remind*+infinitive could be used as a
> >> non-control-verb.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> T.
> >>
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